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mircea_popescu: apparently was still somehow owned by the ceo.
mircea_popescu: some derpy start-up thing. cointerra scammers "acquired", except not really.
mircea_popescu: nfi what "hyperledger" even is or was supposed to be, looks like pure accounting fraud but what do i know
mircea_popescu: seems to have been a "for free" acquisition, "just pay us our salaries"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, know what the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ?
mod6: while trying to figure out how to set "BUILD_SHARED_LIBS=false" or something, i ran into this; www.cmake.org/pipermail/cmake/2006-October/011418.html
mod6: anyway, will check back into that in a bit... maybe i did something weird. but i'm pretty sure it was the correct order.
mod6: asciilifeform: I just did the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added the patch for IRC demo, got the following error:
pete_dushenski: mod6: mkay. standing by then.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ? << yeah, worth a shot.
mod6: But anyone is welcome to patch on their own.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 << We're not there yet.
mod6: Now, for all the patches that have been submitted post-release, you need to apply those patches directly from the mailing list. No guide as of yet.
pete_dushenski: mod6: sounds good. thx !
mod6: But, it's probably just easier to download the tarball yourself and extract.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ? << nope. that version should cover everything up through the v0.5.3.1 release.
mircea_popescu: mod6 perhaps something as banal as turning off BUILD_SHARED_LIBS in cmake ? on the grounds that these libraries won't be shared anyway ?
pete_dushenski: might as well take advantage of the extra eyeballs
pete_dushenski: i figure that with all the traffic that the contravex '$20 node' article is receiving of late that it's time to update it with a proper install of 0.5.4 ☟︎
pete_dushenski: which is entirely my own thing to figure out, the instructions are clear
pete_dushenski: i was working from 0.0.5 yesterday on debian 7 and all was going well until i had to edit/add 'auth.sh'
pete_dushenski: mod6: have you posted a foundation 'guide' since 0.0.5 that i'm not seeing on the mailing list ?
mod6: here's the error along with the rest of the compilation of the source files from ~30 minutes ago: http://dpaste.com/2CT2N23.txt
mod6: i've tried like 3 different versions of gcc, with and without my special gcc patch shoehorned in, 2 different versions of uclibc. not quite sure what to think yet.
mircea_popescu: i'm not better, tbh.
mod6: im getting to the point of 'out of my depth'
mircea_popescu: my mind boggles that indeed source there present the compile should fail. i mean... copy / paste it in your own project for chryssakes, if ti comes to it, wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: have you ever tried putting the actual uclibc source in there and trying a full bore static ?
mod6: i think that's referring to uclibc which is an .so perhaps
mircea_popescu: isn't that dynamically linked by definition ?
asciilifeform: (because we know that it does. threading is used in a number of proggies which come with 'buildroot')
mod6: i'll see if i can get to that here sometime today.
asciilifeform: i'd like to know which uclibc actually supports pthreads
mod6: naw, haven't tried yet.
asciilifeform: see if same thing
asciilifeform: mod6: have you tried building a minimal 'hello world' with pthreads under uclibc ?
mod6: same thing.
mircea_popescu: poor guy, my heart goes out. "does this work ? " "well it works in the sense it takes the shit out of the soup. puss is sitll there."
mod6: yes. that.
mod6: well they work in the context that these files compile without /those/ specific problems (i.e. namespace problems with boost), but we still have the gcc/uclibc issue.
mod6: do you want me to add in the { Gentoo Sanity } patches as well?
asciilifeform imagines mircea_popescu syncing his node from pdp11 tape reels
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's a mighty fast sync.
asciilifeform: that's the version that i'm considering for public seed box, and it would be helpful to folks reviewing
mircea_popescu: in other news, it looks like (fingers crossed) might have seed up today.
mod6: all the way up through the IRC demolition?
asciilifeform: mod6: if you have time, consider putting up a second copy of this, but loaded with the 'bleeding' version
asciilifeform: esp. in comparison with the turdmeisters' copy, which is so bloated it makes my browser cry
mod6: asciilifeform: ahh. ok well take a look at this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/index.html
asciilifeform: it will be interesting to see when the linked page vanishes.
mircea_popescu: it should be spilled milk. why should they be able to "change" ?
asciilifeform: just pointing out that the turtle is not by pure accident the symbol of that university, and life moves very slowly there.
asciilifeform: so that thing may well stay up for a while, and no one ought to be surprised that it features a now-defunct chumpatron
asciilifeform: it is SOP for course www to remain unchanged until new syllabus is written (if and when the course is read again)
asciilifeform: re: the umd wankatron: i will add a potentially interesting detail:
asciilifeform: (though i am not certain if it does so automagically or needs embedded annotations that we lack)
asciilifeform: mod6: i must confess that i never once actually used 'doxygen' for anything. but saw the page linked yesterday, and it (at least if viewed in graphical www browser) does some nifty things, like unraveling class inheritances
asciilifeform: yezhov's was a complicated matter. in the sense that he wasn't 100% 'pet', showed signs of being willing and able to bite stalin. so had to go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if memory serves, rarely has there been a more effectual bureaucrat than yezhov
mircea_popescu: we're not at war with the united states government. we're at war with the people making it up. governments don't exist, people do.
asciilifeform: why would prof. lysenko here get desperate unless the cheques start bouncing ?
mircea_popescu: this is why "no committee". get the names, ruin their lives, let them be replaced.
mircea_popescu: for all their pretense, they're people. they cry, they hurt, they get hungry and desperate.
mircea_popescu: this is a fact. it's to be used, to hurt THE PEOPLE involved.
asciilifeform: can the roof keep out the rain ?
asciilifeform: not trying to frame this as a calamity, but as a force of nature
mircea_popescu: more imporantly : every bureaucrat, no matter how low ranking, has an identical bureaucrat clone ready to take over, revving in a corner.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups.
mircea_popescu: and the rest of the "rogue gallery" will be confronted with the unpleasant dilemma that they're in the trenches, and either continue or get shot or else withdraw and get shot.
mircea_popescu: one wallace loh is going to be confronted with the particularly unpleasant dilemma of either saying "yeah mp was right, they were usg all along" or else fucking up an assistant.
mircea_popescu: looky, there's very little point in constantly rehashing this particular form of learned helplessness thing you got going. i don't work that way, i never worked that way, it doesn't in any sense work. it can be a quaint curiosity if you wish, a peculiarity of a peculiar gentleman if oyu must. it can never be more than that and it can never have any impact or meaning in the world.
mircea_popescu: you're saying this as if their 0.5.4 has any bearing on anything.
asciilifeform: the figure of lizardhitler in this affair was never disguised in earnest. he simply wore the traditional kabuki mask, pro forma
pete_dushenski: "and c) we've progressed so far since then, my little dearest, these words on this page from this kant feller are barely worth the paper they're written on other than for being so adorably archaic"
asciilifeform: the thing's a rogue's gallery of buterin, the 'ripple' folks, a 'law prof' devoted to digging up precedent for 'regulating cryptocurrency', etc.
mircea_popescu: the line they crossed is that they exposed their master, and yeah they're fucked.
mircea_popescu: his reptilian majesty is still lying about its involvement in that particular scam.
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring/#comment-114627 << what line did they cross? if you read the guest speaker list linked a few lines back, it becomes clear that they are doing the will of His Reptilian Majesty
mircea_popescu: "o, parents should tell their kids all about how a) they're smarter than kant and b) really, it was god not this evolution bs,"
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this even.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177386 << lol apparently these 'wilder publications' have a bit of a reputation for scamming, see: http://www.patricesarath.com/observations/the-shameful-business-model-of-wilder-publications/ ☝︎
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decimation: It's depressing that these people are 'paid to think' and are engaging with bitcoin at the level of the average new york times commenter
decimation: imagine dijsktra giving a talk on the various ways in which bitcoin code is horrifying
asciilifeform: why would a fly think that meat in the sun 'needs' anything other than some fly eggs ?
pete_dushenski: thought that, if anything, code needed moar feechures.
decimation: but I would agree that they know from which master they get their pay
decimation: that doesn't mean they know anything about bitcoin
pete_dushenski: right. they read code, liked what they saw.
asciilifeform: they know what they're doing.
decimation: like, why are none of you actually reading the bitcoin code
decimation: the conference would have been about telling uncomfortable truths
decimation: asciilifeform: of course, if they invited someone who actually knew about bitcoin
asciilifeform: with shame i admit that i not only took degree there, but was employed for a spell under the same roof ('umiacs') with these mega-heroes.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell thestringpuller hope you like michael jackson http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/25/this-is-it/
pete_dushenski: 'masters thesis'
asciilifeform: i bet the ee labs are already providing gratis fab & debug service for those
pete_dushenski: or 21 and their comcastboxen
pete_dushenski: mebbe usgbitfury will be there with their lightbulbs