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asciilifeform: but this tells us ~nothing to narrow it
asciilifeform: fw (or what claims to be the fw, i cannot verify re actual iron) is a c proggy, for what looks like an arm
asciilifeform: so far no dice, not in ru sphere either
asciilifeform: i've been looking for it since it was first mentioned in last wk's thread with the d00d
asciilifeform: google had various crapola fabbed in the past, it wouldn't be a first
asciilifeform: if it's a shelf chip with title sanded off, neither i nor apparently anybody else knows which
asciilifeform: anyway it is asciilifeform's teatime, and so i'ma bbl, inclined folx can puzzle over this puzzler .
asciilifeform: even supposing that cr50 were cleanly removable (the designers would have to be idiots, to make it cleanly removable, really)
asciilifeform: this approach threatens to turn the project into 'phd assembly line', sorta half the point of this machine was that it could be conjured up from the konsoomer shelf version with 10min of effort and 100% yield
asciilifeform: i can heat it to 400C and pull it off the board and see if power still goes ( chances are , it won't, d00d was telling the truth re other boobytraps previously ) , but that's about it.
asciilifeform: the problem is that i cannot answer any useful question about it other than at brainmelting expense ( see the bolix thread ).
asciilifeform: at any rate, if d00d was telling even half the truth re 'we had a cpld, in prev machines, and moved it, among else, to cr50 when we got to make own die' then it prolly is not a standard konsoomer loltron.
asciilifeform: the #1 choice of tardano vendors, certainly
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: link is generic sad, orcish technicum curriculum, doesn't seem to have any useful connection with subj
asciilifeform: the chip itself does not match the description of any old fritztron familiar to asciilifeform (e.g. infineon's, intel's)
asciilifeform: they also distribute a ball of src which they ~claim~ (unverifiably, afaik, see thread) runs in it.
asciilifeform: well, not bought, were issued.
asciilifeform: ( they dun have, afaik, a fab, the 'TWN' suggests they contracted out to e.g. infineon )
asciilifeform: it's a google in-house product.
asciilifeform: i'ma guess you used a search engine and found http://courses.daiict.ac.in/mod/resource/view.php?id=1403 , random indian d00d with no connection
asciilifeform: i mean, re 'aka esp-w09'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you figure ?
asciilifeform: ( d00d even mentioned, 'we get it with seekrecy')
asciilifeform: no public datashit.
asciilifeform: it is called cr50. also seems to go by 'h1 secure microcontroller' ☟︎
asciilifeform: let's recall that the whole thing is an exercise in junkyard wars, i can only stomp the obvious cockroaches
asciilifeform: or is the idea that the 2015 is fraudulently labeled, and really made last month ?
asciilifeform: why would 2015 box have it in the die, but 2017 external ?
asciilifeform: recall thread where mircea_popescu explained to a n00b, 'even when typhus epidemic rages, does not excuse you from washing hands' ?
asciilifeform: afaik most simply shove it into the cpu die.
asciilifeform: erry device maker gets own variant, to keep life interesting
asciilifeform: very tellingly, 0 datashit on the net, 0 mentions of the part anywhere
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/h1_fritz_chip.jpg << suspect, labeled
asciilifeform: once it's open
asciilifeform: 2015 box ? 2015 box. does have cr50 ? my probe + naked eye, will say
asciilifeform: should be able to test the truth of the allegation tho.
asciilifeform: which seems to be an almost exactly same machine ( i had it confused with c100 original ) but sans the cr50
asciilifeform: prolly worth examining the c100pa 1st
asciilifeform: or is it for use as hammer ? ( it ain't a very good hammer )
asciilifeform: ugh how do you intend to switch the thing on ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma definitely lift it, prior to throwing out board, but suspect that d00d was telling the truth re the power button, it doesn't seem to be routed though the old ec controller any moar
asciilifeform: ( and will point out, if i have to cut traces on these, the units will be produces at the rate of one per month, likely )
asciilifeform: ( it's a 16-layer pcb )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd happily cut it, but looking at the board, i suspect that they buried the traces
asciilifeform: specifically against uppity orcs
asciilifeform: they rerouted the power button and voltage regulator sequencing, through it.
asciilifeform: can't switch on without it
asciilifeform: 'glued on with broken glass'(tm)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, controls powersupply
asciilifeform: ( supposing d00d told the truth re the latter )
asciilifeform: prolly will have to bite the bullet and throw out c101pa , and try the c100pa .
asciilifeform: the impatient can read from the end, backwards.
asciilifeform: ok, d00d left; https://archive.li/FFROT << whole thread snapshot. ☟︎
asciilifeform: standalone thing
asciilifeform: not rk
asciilifeform: whole thread worth reading. presently i have doubt that the project is even worth the candles. ( tldr: there is a nsa rootkit chip on the board )
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: tho i suspect that he's running dry
asciilifeform: not only not excommunicated, but the informant still grudgingly drips hints
asciilifeform: https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-07#22285756; << moar c101pa lulzies
asciilifeform: prolly it's hosted on some d00d's home dsl, lol
asciilifeform: yep looks dead
asciilifeform: controls battery charger, power button, etc
asciilifeform: aaha
asciilifeform: interestingly, the ec console works when box is 'off'..
asciilifeform: some of the cmds (e.g. 'i2cscan', 'reboot') return 'access denied', will have to find why.
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/XPFXr/?raw=true << console crapola
asciilifeform: it'll be interesting to try the plug with a recent intel box ( i dun have any, currently, with usbc ); see earlier derpery link re why
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . small victory tho, yet.
asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: possibly even ~two~, there are two roms, 1 is the bootloader, the other is the embedded controller
asciilifeform: and in principle can be used to rewrite the eeprom without fancy solderings...
asciilifeform: the trickiest part of this magic trick still remains to be done, because -- if google's shitpile is to be believed -- one of those /dev/ttyUSBn is actually a spi bridge
asciilifeform brb,teatime
asciilifeform: the only 'exotica' is the usbc breakout plug; these are on lulzazon ( part http://a.co/hus7Yyh ) and prolly elsewhere.
asciilifeform: phf: i built it from junk box, you can make it in about 10min.
asciilifeform: it was buried in a megalith standards committee pdf crapola.
asciilifeform: see prev. post.
asciilifeform: reportedly they use same seekrit plug.
asciilifeform: bonus, should also work , in principle, to control intel.nsa rootkit ( https://archive.li/PCptx derpery & in other 'seekrit whisperings' )
asciilifeform: the seekrit is out...
asciilifeform: ^ complete schematic.
asciilifeform: https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-rockchip/2018-06-07#22280508 << oblig whisperers who 'helped'
asciilifeform bbl.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/usb2spew.txt << spew.
asciilifeform: article updated again.
asciilifeform: aajajajaja i have console...
asciilifeform: article updated.
asciilifeform: but 1st step.
asciilifeform: well, possibly i spoke in haste, it ain't a cp201/ftdi/etc, but some google strange.
asciilifeform: sbu1/sbu2 is a ~usb~ d+/d-.
asciilifeform: bahaha i have uart.
asciilifeform: phf: idea is to get at the standard rockchip uart
asciilifeform: phf: ec uart is separate and i dun need it
asciilifeform: ( various whisperings at https://archive.li/lQydM and elsewhere, for the expert entomologist only )
asciilifeform: otkit (r/w memory etc via usb jack)
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1821018 apparently requires a https://archive.li/9wxqo ( 'partners only' google proprietary dongle ) to enable uart; this, in turn, appears to be a usb-c 'debug accessory mode' magic-voltage set ; and it is deliberately (see below) poorly specced. i dug for the detail, turns out that it is likely being sat on by usg.google et al, because it also enables talking to recent intel iron ro ☝︎
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: ( the only one that ended up speaking 1500000 baud, was ftdi's )