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punkman: he got the "no" he wanted
cazalla: well Yanis Varoufakis fell on his sword, back to valve to make more hats i guess
ben_vulpes: <decimation> heh do a few cycles in the gentoo barrel << tomorrow mayhap. tonight, the canadians have interesting ingestibles.
ben_vulpes: where arse those?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> they are exactly the same to me. << and your own zero days?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> (though there is some debate as to whether it matters ~which~ type of cousin one fucks) << generally just the girls ☟︎
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> (oop systems which aren't clos (or possibly smalltalk's, and generally meta-object-able) are like btc securities exchanges which aren't mpex.) << by virtue of living in the shit your whole life, you'll be able to read it.
decimation: Who do they think they are? snapchat?
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 11:18:09; punkman: on a related note, kinda annoying reading through logs and trying to read all those expired dpastes
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188136 << hm, this is an issue isn't it << srsly ☝︎☟︎
cazalla: speaking of australia, our dollar is down to 5 year lows.. here's hoping it goes much lower http://i.imgur.com/FRus9l5.png
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> cazalla: Comment deleted, just as I was about to make a witicism << witticism, like witty
cazalla: ben_vulpes, so you base an entire nation on the few you've met.. gee get a load of this racist ☟︎
decimation: yes, you basically have to devote a fulll machine to it ☟︎
ben_vulpes: testing this thing is a goddamn nightmare.
decimation: yeah that's a good idea
decimation: it's taken like 8 hours to go 10k blocks
decimation: by the way my stator node is slow as balls, I"m not sure if it's my machine or the node
ben_vulpes: decimation: take a look at binary-types, per asciilifeform's suggestion
decimation: yeah I think I'm going to play with phf's blockchain code he wrote in lisp as an education
ben_vulpes: although a barebones lisp editor is tempting.
decimation: one day I will fire up that symbolics emulator
ben_vulpes: no time for reimplementing elisp or...emacs even.
decimation: yeah, I've seen the screenshots for 'zmacs'
ben_vulpes: look i'm just trying to make a mil or 5 over here
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> the irish have been flooding aussie shores for the past few years << met another ozzie this wknd
decimation: heh. I'm not much of a lisp guy, but the ones I know aren't a fan of emacs lisp
ben_vulpes: (emacs-gd, that is)
ben_vulpes: irc bouncer implementation's a good thing to have in the interim.
ben_vulpes: decimation: re gossipd errything's gonna have to be reimplemented atop it
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> the irish have been flooding aussie shores for the past few years << ugh i met another ozzie today
decimation: or the gossipd thing
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu an irc bouncer job advert wouldn't go amiss ☟︎
decimation: heh do a few cycles in the gentoo barrel
ben_vulpes: i'm saying that my nose ain't that good yet
decimation: I just didn't trust it by the smell
ben_vulpes: oh you rejected it before you figured out that editing the config files while the thing waas running would fly it straight into the wall at 0.8 mach?
decimation: heh yeah I looked at the znc config as said 'fuck this shit'
decimation: want to cut/paste arbitrary things in emacs
ben_vulpes: good with high latency, network-hopping, all of the travails of diginomad life.
decimation: yeah I get what you mean about more than one emacs
ben_vulpes: but very good tool for persistent terminals on remote hosts.
decimation: oh wait is that the supposed ssh replacement
ben_vulpes: ah no, it's a tmuxalike
ben_vulpes: but it does new up a udp thinger.
ben_vulpes: can't say as i can tell from your question.
decimation: is that one of those client/server deals?
decimation: yeah that does suck I agree
ben_vulpes: decimation: running more than one emacs chafes.
decimation: ben_vulpes: I switched to erc, have seen the light
mircea_popescu: an' with that, im off. have a great 5th of july erryone.
mircea_popescu: don't look at me, it's all them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> just think of the moral degeneration from ~that~ << those grapes aren't whine yet.
mircea_popescu: im sure it's there anyway, but hey.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is not practical to keep tb sized backups on webservers. make a local copy, put on torrents.
mircea_popescu: <mats> you'll not enjoy reading the key server code then << im kinda curious how this thing will go down :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am deliberately trampling that convention. fuck them.
mircea_popescu: maybne iof anyone feels like posting the link where doxygen / svg experts gather.
decimation: the supreme irony being that the story is that 'nato won' because of capitalist efficency
decimation: they only had to build planes, not employ zombies
decimation: asciilifeform: this is why the ru military were able to make fighters that match nato's for orders of magnitude less cash
asciilifeform: (because higher price tag + vapour delivery is far more lucrative than low + same vapour)
asciilifeform: just like an f-35 engine compressor made from monocrystalline shitanium with unobtainium alloy blades is far more lucrative than an ordinary steel one
asciilifeform: which also means that there is that much more to be embezzled via meta-armies of imaginary labourers
asciilifeform: decimation: the process of crafting, concealing, and then digging up '0days' is extremely labour-intensive
decimation: asciilifeform: what gets my goat are the constant pleadings for money money and power to do 'cyber'
decimation: even microsoft needs a tcp/ip stack - reminds me of your blog post on 'the burden of supporting all the world'
asciilifeform: if 'selling the rope with which to be hanged'
asciilifeform: at the very least, ought to charge
asciilifeform: what i'd like to see happen is for all the poor schmucks who report, e.g., a 'xen' 0day, to 'cert' et al, to understand that they are ~weaponsmithing for usg for free~
asciilifeform: decimation: notice that 'winblows' now includes much of the unixlike world, in practice.
decimation: well, then why not congratulate, rather than roast, said devil?
asciilifeform: the hell they rot in is a strictly voluntary place
asciilifeform: what next, we are to care about the 'innocents' 'securing themselves' with winblows?
asciilifeform: at any rate, the offenders for this last item are known, habitual, and loudly unrepentant.
decimation: then again, who are the innocents using openssl to secure themselves?
asciilifeform: every devil, great and small, held up by his hindlegs over the fire will say exactly same thing: 'mistake'
asciilifeform: how am i to believe this?
asciilifeform: they are exactly the same to me.
asciilifeform: i personally refuse to make any distinction between someone who wrote, e.g., 'heartbleed', into existence - and some other fella who ~knew of it and didn't tell me~
decimation: ironically usg uses the same formula for 'extending protection'
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:24:01; mircea_popescu: "you wanted to benefit from responsible disclosure protections, you should have been in the wot" "but at the time i made that decision it seemed a no brainer, why expend the effort" "right. this is why you die."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188887 << on top of this, the folks who informed 'amazon' and other usgtronic entities about the xen holes, etc. long before mortals were shown - are legitimate targets. ☝︎
decimation: but getting it to cough up full stacktraces is a pain in the ass
decimation: asciilifeform: I've made those flamegraphs before, used 'perf' tool
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:48:54; mircea_popescu: decimation their branchline is in no sense backwards. it is currently the consensus of thinking people (alf said "ru", but really, i agree, everyone with any sense agrees, ru is no determinant) that they are in point of fact broadly correct,
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188872 << mistake to symlink 'the west is moribund' and 'la ilaha illa'llah Muhammadun rasul Allah' (tm) (r) ☝︎
asciilifeform: if the effect were not so brute, it would've made a good star in an 'underhanded c contest' entry.
asciilifeform: whether the compiler, the os, or satan is to blame - is secondary
asciilifeform: mats: fact of the matter is, the machine behaves in a way which will probably surprise most readers.
mats: "it is not a case of the compiler doing something crazy because of undefined behavior."
mats: asciilifeform: after some consultation with my betters, one had this to say: "I'm not sure you can blame that on undefined behavior, except insofar as a SIGFPE is just as valid as nasal demons and such at that point."
asciilifeform: (though there is some debate as to whether it matters ~which~ type of cousin one fucks)
decimation: nevertheless, isis is certainly where you would find someone who knows how to survive a shitstorm
asciilifeform: ask the hassids
asciilifeform: eh, that one's survivable
decimation: not to mention the generations of inbreeding
asciilifeform: just think of the moral degeneration from ~that~
asciilifeform: nor are the 'desert horde' exempt from the radiation damage of welfarism. ferfuxxsake they're getting free tanks by the column !
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:50:10; mircea_popescu: the sad result of post-war welfarism being that "the west" is now in this sad position where the brightest minds are in the heads of some unwashed horde somewhere in the mideast.