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mircea_popescu: i haven'
t the slightest curiosity to find what rando i couldn'
t tell from adam thinks the blocks look like.
mod6: Couldn'
t have been possible without all of you.
hanbot: mod6 v99996 up and running here, couldn'
t've asked for something smoother.
mod6: then make a backup (for those who haven'
t)
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn'
t support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
assbot: Logged on 24-01-2016 08:18:57; phf: as it stands foundation doesn'
t support openbsd, and when someone wants to build on openbsd, i just support them directly
punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn'
t really know much << wouldn'
t this guy be better off downloading a signed binary?
☟︎ mod6: what good is fixing the mempool or other things if they can'
t build it and use it today?
mod6: But we can'
t work on that, until we have something that people can use today.
mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn'
t really know much -- but at least enough to install Linux can build this with a "single button push"
shinohai: I won'
t lie those, there are times I cry " mod6 HALP!!!!"
mod6: if hanbot and Mr. P. can get through it ok, then we'll deedbot it -- not that I feel good about it - I don'
t. The thing isn'
t what we really want... it's just what we have, for now. :/
mod6: There are steps that I can let you know about to walk you through setting this up and logging your every move so we can all discover what it is that isn'
t working on your end. Because I'd bet dollars to donuts that for somereason you are ending up with a super downlevel version of db.cpp -- which is why you're getting stuck on 252`450
mod6: if you have .bitcoin/bitcoin.conf -- then you shouldn'
t need to use the flag: -conf
☟︎ mod6: <+hanbot>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn'
t already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &`
☝︎ mod6: it doesn'
t scale obviously for everyone to have these issues. for my own sanity, we need to make it so that a guy just basically does one thing and then it builds.
☟︎ phf: actually that one seems to be buggy? there isn'
t any branching, they all are linear. hmm
punkman: hanbot, so if you don'
t use nohup, you can also get rid of the redirection at the end "2>&1 &"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski didn'
t they kidnap the sitting fmi head over "charged" based on the testimony of a streetwalker that the us district attorney had paid to lie ?
punkman: hanbot, I think you don'
t need -conf if you have -datadir
mircea_popescu: ie, infantile delusions of sovereignity through "privacy". this doesn'
t work. sovereignity behaves publicly and with impunity. that is the fucking point.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: and that if that's still not good enough, that you wouldn'
t burn the court house to the ground and piss on the ashes !
pete_dushenski: and if you're caught, that you can'
t afford the best lawyers !
diametric: pete_dushenski: the article i read didn'
t say marks, but specifically lacerations.
mircea_popescu: nfi why the ORIGNAL announcement wasn'
t "here's the games!"
BingoBoingo: In sideshow news, Tommy Chong endorsed Bernie Sanders. Hilary just can'
t win.
pete_dushenski: humourously, wp wouldn'
t allow '.sh' to be uploaded for 'sekoority raisons'
pete_dushenski: cazalla_: might be worth it to find an older car, higher km, just to avoid the cvt. then again, maybe you drive the cvt and don'
t mind it for the kind of routes you frequent, who knows
pete_dushenski: no reason for 2010 in particular, just earlier than 2011. corolla didn'
t always have cvt, so just... dig back
shinohai: I didn'
t get it in "getinfo" though myself. Still shows 99999
pete_dushenski: but i don'
t discount that i bunged something up along the way
BingoBoingo: I believe reddit user's first four characters are "paul" and can'
t bother spelling the rest because reddit.
shinohai: YEs pete_dushenski and mod6 in my tests it didnt change. Haven'
t tried setting or doing anything else since then, just letting the node run.
mod6: this is of value since I really haven'
t played with this on my own. perhaps log your results and post.
mod6: pete_dushenski: ok good q. shinohai had some issues with trying to set the value via the command line too - i haven'
t even tested this yet.
mod6: hanbot: alrighty, thanks. sometimes if I don'
t hear anything, i just assume the worst. heheh.
mod6: this thing doesn'
t play nice trying to run it more than one time with old artifacts laying around.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's no good because it still doesn'
t explain WHERE they should go. it's ambiguous between .wot and keyring\
mircea_popescu: phf this is worthy goal and a pretty effectual approach even if it doesn'
t get used for anything post-grok
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla at some point it was discovered configure doesn'
t configure properly without --host=x86_64-linux given explicitly.
hanbot: oh so i don'
t actually need korsgaard's key in the .wot dir
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think you can find anyone who both read bitcoin source and thinks the file split is sane.
phf: so we have files a, b and patches x, y, z. x is genesis. y is a->a'. z is a'->a" b->b'. the way v connects the graph is x-y x-z y-z, i.e. patches that have hunks that share state for a file in before and after are connected. it is explicitly not a transition graph, which would be x-y y-z (since you can'
t apply z on top of x without first applying y)?
mircea_popescu: lol i always wondered why us highschoolers didn'
t get into toluene huffing\
mircea_popescu: "This is one of those things that seem true for those who have gotten spoiled by the windowing environment. The reason this can'
t be considered true is that at some point, you have to specify (or get down to) a ModelOfComputation, and the one most programmers use is simply different than LISP which is very different since it has no definition of MachineTypes?. See ConfusedComputerScience."
mircea_popescu: all the shit you boys do just to get to pretend like you don'
t need any adhd meds.
mircea_popescu: punishment doesn'
t necessarily have to be a spur of a moment thing, i'm not training dogs.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller minority coins may be "worse in every practical way", but they are BETTER in the only way that matters : minority doesn'
t inflate, majority does.
mircea_popescu: polarbeard don'
t get this wrong, you did a lot of very useful work in that patch.
polarbeard: yeah, I understand people don'
t want to run rube-goldberg machines
mircea_popescu: note that the only way i got my apparently very controversial /s /
t patch to even be considered was showing how it could be machined.
polarbeard: mircea_popescu: the patch ended up being a bit verbose, yep, but it made sense to me fixing the messages as I was adding metadata, that's why I didn'
t add filtering, to not add actual logic to an already pretty big patch
pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: nor i. rat9 looked spiffy but chewed through swappable battery in ~5 hours. even when 'worked' it twitched and jumped and spasmed and triggered all kinds of inane shit. couldn'
t even highlight menu bar drop-downs.
mircea_popescu: because people didn'
t make both y and z first level nodes of x, people are indicating that whether you know why or not, you need a->a' for b->b'.
mircea_popescu: im sorry, i mean : if you didn'
t need y, then y should have been z'.
phf: if i have files a b and patches x y z, x is genesis, y does a->a', z does b->b', topo sort x z y. if i were to ask for y press, i also get z, whether i need it or not. conversly if i press z, i don'
t get y.
mircea_popescu: you can'
t switch back. once you've decided to take the hardwood floor and light your stove with it, you can'
t then decide to take stove ash and make a floor.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ironically, consider the historical aspect. vc's strategic mistake to NOT submit early and well ensured that they don'
t have a voice at the one time it'd have mattered. now they're getting locked out of bitcoin, which means computing, and what'll mit do, switch back to scheme because THAT is what junior devs will need to get jobs ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> this will have to be dealt with << doesn'
t seem terribly hard.
ascii_butugychag: adlai: to me it simply means 'i don'
t have to leave my editor and FUCK NO I AM NEVER pasting code into a motherfucking shell 10000000 time a day'
adlai: ascii_butugychag: sure, i'm taking slime-the-~idea~ and trying to "take away everything that doesn'
t look like an elephant"
adlai: maybe they didn'
t use the words 'fungible' and 'cog', but it was justified as what junior devs need to pass interviews
mircea_popescu: (different field, but same principle - you to this day can'
t beat literature as read at oxford cca 1880ish, just like you can'
t really beat it from mit cca 1960. the latter branch is obvious here, but the former'd be just as obvious in a literature-powered ba)
adlai: mod6: you're already making lisp jokes, even if you don'
t get them yet!
mod6: i've gotta take a crash course in scheme very quickly or I won'
t be able to make heads or tails out of these code submissions. eek!
mircea_popescu: this way the human gardener can review and arbitrate the matter and i (at least hopefully) won'
t get negrated for it breaking shit.
mircea_popescu: now, one obvious solution (wasn'
t obvious to me at the time what it was a solution to) is to INCLUDE COMMENTS in the patches, like i did with my only signed patch i didn'
t really intended as part of a final pressing
mircea_popescu: a) the presser might disagree and b) the V doesn'
t really distinguish
punkman: you can'
t apply two patches that modify the same thing, at least in newer v.pl that checks hashes
thestringpuller: and coworkers make fun of me for using terminals and lightweight tools cause they "ain'
t pretty" the actual fuck. this is exactly why being a web developer is like slow torture.
mod6: We've come a very long way, and we've still got some road ahead (we all know), but we can'
t have a republic with out the sovereigns participants who wish to make it.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: ahahahaha the one that won'
t suspend-mode, ah
mod6: I wouldn'
t trade what we have here for anything. If I could work it out, this is all I would do every day.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 how would you rate working with b-a vs working with job people ? are we just as enervating ye
t? << this beats anything else I've ever encountered by a wide margin.
mircea_popescu: me types three letters in editor, hits tabs a few times, is very confused when the required fill-in doesn'
t occur.
mircea_popescu: hey mod6 how would you rate working with b-a vs working with job people ? are we just as enervating ye
t?
mircea_popescu: i'm quickly building a reputation for a wrecker of trb aren'
t i !
ascii_butugychag: and if you don'
t do variant wots, it can live there permanently.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag well looky, the problem there was that the dir tree wasn'
t curated well.
mircea_popescu: put the test sufficiently high up in the program flow you won'
t have bad things happen.