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mircea_popescu: fix MY fucking flat tyre so i go where I wanted to go in the first place., don't tell me idea is better than 2kbit bassomatic, i couldn't give less of a shit.
mircea_popescu: so sure, they "fixed" his error, but the wrong way. i don't want a fix for a flat tyre that consists in loading me up on a trai nthat goes a different direction.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396294 << this is like falling in love, you don't make one just because you need one. chaining things you don't understand for accountant's business sense reasons results in unexpected weaknesses. was a thread here about just that few months ago ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: I think I'm going to stop reading the "Phenomenology of Spirit". I didn't get sober to import the mental version of systemd.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396210 << wouldn't it be logic-er at this point to create a v genesis, and then add to that ? ☝︎
mod6: ok, thanks, i've been working on a fix for a similar thing, actually, which is related to a similar test by ben_vulpes -- but haven't completed it yet.
phf: so in my gossipd attempt i'm basically just slinging gpg packets over the wire. have a little state machine that reads/validates openpgp packets from the wire. that doesn't work for streams though.. (in before eww)
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asciilifeform: 'we don't have a cow! we have a ~bull~...' (tm) (r) ('kingpin')
mircea_popescu: by now the gap is so large people can't even grasp it.
adlai: Carli-: have you ever heard of "feature creep"? being able to specify a feature, which is related to an existing program, doesn't mean the same program should include that feature
phf: lurk 6 months, build trb, replace RelayMessage in http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/wallet.cpp#0645 with your own thing that serializes CTransaction to file, come back if that doesn't quite work
adlai: Carli-: not really, i don't think this is the same kind of procedure as googling three-ingredient brownies
adlai: and it didn't scream "these people hate javascrypto" at you?
Carli-: asciilifeform: isn't "deterministic" kind of similar to what OTR, or Axolotl does?
adlai: this is an operational concern. the bitcoin node software doesn't even need to know what a private key is!
asciilifeform: phf: i don't recall anybody using gpgme here
adlai: there are some use cases for it, sure. but there's a reason that they weren't automatically merged in despite being invented by the same people
BingoBoingo: Because at one point loading the whole blockchain into RAM was an idea that didn't give most people pause.
asciilifeform: Carli-: i also don't much care what the best stove for burning pieces of my sofa to heat my house would be, either
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 23:36:26; pete_dushenski: y still can't buy 10% of asciilifeform's time nor 10% of mod6's. fancy that :)
mircea_popescu: felipelalli the reason you're getting so much grief is that it's not clear how your premises work. i mean i get it, you want to help people, and teach them about otc and so on. this is one thing. but i mean what did you do, i don't follow, reimplement gpg as a java thing ?
felipelalli: I'll put a link to source code and in Github I'll put the jar in "releases" section. I think it is better in this way at least while the app isn't so mature yet.
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, ahahh yes. But there is no special code to WIN32 actually in Java. The "exe" was just a wrapper. But if the guy can't execute a jar in Windows he just won't be able to use WoT anyway.
mircea_popescu: "I could probably write a book about the depth and complexity of events of the past year, the lessons I've learned and the personalities I've dealth with. However, at this point it's all history, and I've always been more interested in planning the future than dwelling too much on the past." << no, he couldn';t write a book. not anymore than boshiman could build a city on all the land he walks. moreover, orc imagines h
guruvan: "Twenty megabytes downloaded plus twenty megabytes uploaded every ten minutes is about 170 gigabytes bandwidth usage per month " << gavin doesn't want well connected nodes I see
pete_dushenski: y still can't buy 10% of asciilifeform's time nor 10% of mod6's. fancy that :) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf and i don't need to see anything re genesis etc. just about the final destination.
mircea_popescu: wait what! you can't sign a whole press
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395641 << isn't this how intergender discussion usually goes ? ☝︎
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mircea_popescu: we so far fired a single bullet out of a gun we don't even know who the fuck made. seems a lot of unwarranted cockyness all around for this little knowledge.
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 20:24:49; danielpbarron: let me see if i can make one of those funny metaphores out of this: "that's like a cock that can get you pregnant, but you can't have sex with it"
mircea_popescu: moreover, whether it does or might isn't the point. the point is, can you prove it doesn't have such nature ? because unless you can, speaking of it as a quota is iffy.
topynate: yes. so long as it's a convention with teeth. e.g. opec's oil production quota used to be a real quota because enforcible, now it isn't
topynate: ah. no, i don't think you can stretch it that far. that would be like saying the total quantity of oil in the ground was a quota on oil production.
thestringpuller: regrind is alt-version of patch, why can't it be applied linearly? (or at least force such a workflow)
mircea_popescu: regrind, to be perfectly clear, is the act of making a tree out of patches instead of keeping them linear. this is a known efficiency-of-search trope, and i shouldn't have to explain how distributing the patches out saves work when i'm pressing 3 years later and want to read the whole string of patches from genesis.
mircea_popescu: you don't like doing the work, don't fucking write.
mircea_popescu: well i can't reuse a name can i.
trinque: mod6: I did a rescan but don't see my key as part of the default "account". I'll fiddle with the wallet.dat a bit more, then take a look at backporting that importprivkey
phf likes how tinyscheme doesn't check arity
ascii_butugychag: i don't think i will ~ever~ recommend tinyscheme on a box which carries live-fire coin.
ascii_butugychag: (which is why i didn't do it)
ascii_butugychag: however, persisting shiva isn't a trivial thing
danielpbarron: speaking of obese, from BingoBoingo's linked article >> But for what it's worth, you yourself aren't coming out smelling like a rose here -- and not because of your actions in this story, but because of your commentary on it: You have a pretty gross attitude toward overweight people. << haha found the fatty! (TM)
ascii_butugychag: well it doesn't lock, but it gives you one lisp world per telnet connection
phf: doesn't need persistent for slime type use either. can just connect and mainloop, so the state will be around for duration of session?
trinque: ben_vulpes: first I'm getting deed txns going by using the trb wallet; I don't want to have to wait for an implementation of eatrawtx to resume deeds
trinque: eh I knew that ball of duct tape and twine wasn't going to last
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Anyways it's a better use of time doing things that can't be done on windows and making your friends want to leave the windows favella than just doing everything for them.
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felipelalli: danielpbarron, good question. Because if I don't, I feel too lonely? :D
felipelalli: BingoBoingo, I don't use Windows.
thestringpuller: "[We should see Bitcoin classic use ramp up] after binaries are released. Most people don't want to compile". << These people really shouldn't be involved in Bitcoin. Like going to war without learning to clean gun.
felipelalli: ascii_butugychag, I didn't ask you to use it, didn't I?
danielpbarron: let me see if i can make one of those funny metaphores out of this: "that's like a cock that can get you pregnant, but you can't have sex with it" ☟︎
jurov: felipelalli: i can see, but...user that doesn't know how to make a signature or talk to gribble don't have anything to do in otc
felipelalli: trinque, the start of the problem was my expired key, wasn't it?
mod6: i read trb logs every day. who doesn't?
jurov: it can't be used to identify signed document
phf: i was trying to see if could look up the corresponding vpatch by decoding the sig's hash, and then assoc into a precomputed map of vpatch hashes. unfortunately openpgp concats the sig header to the payload, so can't precompute :/
ascii_butugychag: because they aren't tmsr and do not have our axioms.
PeterL: wouldn't they be equal?
punkman: don't we have to be careful with the antipatches though, so as not to introduce cycles in the graph?
ascii_butugychag: i mean hey, it's ~my~ history of bug-crapping that is being whitewashed over, so i shouldn't complain... but still
phf: fwiw deleting a patch doesn't "remove it" as such, but ensures that all descendants are unpressable
ascii_butugychag: mod6 doesn't have to host it on his site
polarbeard: I completely see unique names are a must, but if you don't replace you'll keep mistakes in the tree?
polarbeard: still don't see how we can't have author_file_unixtime.vpatch and author_file_unixtime.vpatch.author.sig
jurov: anyway, matching the signature against all versions of one patch isn't so big thing to swallow
polarbeard: ascii_butugychag: why can't sigs have the same timestamp?
mod6: t
jurov: so won't you take exception with branches in lxr named vpatchname_YYYMMMDD or vpatchname_SHA1 ?
polarbeard: yep, but I didn't know such thing existed
PeterL: ascii_butugychag> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395141 << when americans stuff ballot box, they like to set it up as 'dark horse candidate' << I wouldn't call Cruz a dark horse, there are just so many candidates he must have been overlooked, we didn't get bets for huckabee, santorum, fiorina, christie, etc, either ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, i found that a blackholed node won't respond to rpc
thestringpuller: Reminds me of when gf is like "eat these vegetables they won't kill you"
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> chances are you simply aren't looking. << grep exists you know.
thestringpuller: yea. but I don't ~look~ at the log 24/7
ascii_butugychag: if you haven't see it.
ascii_butugychag: chances are you simply aren't looking.
thestringpuller: i haven't experienced that problem yet.
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: it doesn't tell you worth shit re: a stuck node.
mircea_popescu: oddly enough i don't get blackholed nearly as often as you do o.O
mircea_popescu: jurov really can't be expected to baby people sending stuff WRONGLY for the rest of his days.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: actually lxr is ~profoundly~ retarded in that i can't link to line numbers
thestringpuller: ascii_butugychag: I read newton's calculus wasn't actually released. it was lebiniz who published it.
thestringpuller: isn't that what IDE is for?
ascii_butugychag: i refuse to read the code in anything where i can't click an identifier and get concordance
ascii_butugychag: i really don't see the appeal, esp. now that phf has the colourized viewer thing
mircea_popescu: einstein comes up with "god doesn't roll dice", switzerland gets +1, newton comes up with calculus "great britain" gets +1 ?
mircea_popescu: well if there isn't make it .
mircea_popescu: the way it wouldn't be for obama. he was, throughout, a loser. losing doesn't affect losers as it affects winners.
copypaste: i think he's doing quite well, i wouldn't be sure enough to put 18BTC on it that's for sure
danielpbarron: happy to say I didn't cave in to their very persistent nagging when i was at porcfest, so I will not have to reneg on this moving nonsense
mircea_popescu: 20k isn't really enough to move nh tho is it ?
danielpbarron doesn't know what he looks like but can only assume..
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 02:13:21; trinque: shinohai: I don't see anything in pybitcointools to shove a privkey into a wallet.dat
asciilifeform: the discovery since he contributed to it (as he said), this is my second big mistake. Of course he accepted to co-write the article, who wouldn't ?! David H. Bailey (and Ferguson) are the authors of the PSLQ program. That program is the <american> version of the Pari-Gp program. I used it a little it is true, but what made the discovery was pari-Gp and Maple interface program I had. So actually, that person has nothing to do w