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trinque: only crime around here is someone comes and steals your grill off
the porch
mircea_popescu: you ever read
the story of
the whores and
the
thieves ?
mircea_popescu: fgor
the other, because orly, you're gonna ROB ME ?!!?
trinque: meh, I leave windows open all night on
the ground floor
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, because dumbass russian locks, kept no one out.
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 01:29:17; mircea_popescu: how do you measure "social
trust" ?
trinque: sure
that might be a factor
trinque: dunno any of
these nervous fucks
trinque: I knew and drank with everybody I lived in an apt building with in
tx
cazalla: trinque, i
talk
to my neighbour over
the back but i couldn't
tell you who else lives in
this street.. growing up it was rare not
to know
trinque: well
there are unspoken rules of it
trinque: but
that was a nice
thing about
Texan (sub)culture
trinque: I still do it, because fuck
them.
mircea_popescu: technology's your enemy
there, not anything
to do with society.
trinque: cazalla: I greet neighbors or people on
the street here and
they look down
mircea_popescu: because instead of doing anything right, people just slap it
together and "we'll do an update later"
mircea_popescu: once software acquired
the ability
to be "updated online", atomic software versions became less
trustworthy.
cazalla: my experience is
that no-one
talks
to anyone
mircea_popescu: it stands
to intuitive reason if you look at it :
the more people can
talk
to more people,
the less any individual
talk can be
trusted, yes ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well, here's
the
thing :
the variable you are likely calling
this is a direct inverse of graph connectivity.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, would you give any weight
to studies
that show multiculti undermines social
trust? (i
try
to keep in mind
these are studies done by gov dept)
trinque: gotta have
that other
thing of which
to be "sub"
trinque: if
there's a github,
there's a community
trinque: if
there's a facebook group for it, it's a culture
mircea_popescu: that
the usians can not read and regularly hang
themselves in
the fancy underwear
they bought in paris is not
the underwear's fault.
mircea_popescu: the original concept is merely commentary, on lengthy extant
tradition, and it stands on its own as a perfectly sensible
term of art in its field.
trinque: not
that I mind
that at all, but it illustrates
the "make any choice, so long as your domain of choosing is entirely irrelevant"
trinque: like in portland you can come
to work at a software company as a male with a skirt on and your nails done, no shoes on, so long as you shut
the fuck up and work
trinque: where have I seen
this kind of short circuiting before
trinque: but you see.. in order for us
to hold hands multiculturally,
there are going
to have
to be some rules...
trinque: I wonder whether anyone actually intended it. It seems
too well designed,
that you create
this concept "multiculturalism" which by definition subsumes whatever particular ideas you might have as an individual.
trinque: hm, it's like in
the place where culture might develop,
they've placed a culture-shredder
mircea_popescu: but go explain
to
taleb why he should stop wearing
the facial hair style he does. because why ? reasons ? he got reasons
too.
mircea_popescu: obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among
things
that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in
their own right.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you're way
the fuck better off just letting everybody use
their own answers
than
trying
to force some sort of homogenity.
mircea_popescu: trinque and
that's what multiculturalism actually is, ftr. given
that it is SO COMPLICATED
to have a cultural superstructure
that allows any semblance of passible solution
to
that, and given
that any sort of formal proof of superiority and inferiority ~AMONG
THAT SET~, strictly, strictly among
that set is so hopeless,
kakobrekla: aha, i had
that particular
http request in mind, but good
to know
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mthreat said it's being moved
to another server.
kakobrekla: the
timeout on
the search is outrageous.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo on
the positive side, all good
things ever come out of an ill equipped kid stuck in a blender.
trinque: I considered
that particular line for a long while after
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah, what you said about a country being a place where young men know who
they are, it's right on
the mark
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but
there's going
to be a lot more Chinese. It also really doesn't help
the newer generations of white
trash
that
they are ill equipped mentally, physically, and morally
to cope.
trinque: somebody more well-read could identify what's malfunctioning in american identity-synthesis
there
trinque: it's strange;
there's something similar between
the guy's door-holding and
the utter lack of any dangerous subculture
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't see how it doesn't happen as I only anticipate
the rape of white
trash
to increase.
mircea_popescu: should make for some pretty easy enthusiastic
teenage poon, if it ever
takes off.
trinque: I've long wondered where all
the supposed neonazis are; met one a while back and I
think all he did was shoot guns and get
tattoes
trinque: there's some kind of shitty white supremacist "punk" I
think
mircea_popescu: christian glam rock bands singin' about how
they don't hold doors open at supermarket
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i wonder if
this is going
to lead
to a new musical genre off
the old superhero comics
tree. just like destitute niggers had
their stupid gangsta shit.
punkman: no idea, didn't pick up in
time, just saw
them in logs
punkman: I got a couple scamcalls from
the Congo few months ago
mircea_popescu: true enough
that it doesn't seem
to last, congo is congo. but... it was a decent
trip, for as long as it lasted.
mircea_popescu: the brief excursion into world relevancy of
the shithole in question is wholly owed
to hamilton & co.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ironically enough, with a beheaded hamilton
the us would still
to
this day be a sort of congo.
trinque: couldn't possibly be
the unpredictable insanity of
the economic system, or
the brutal, violent govt
mircea_popescu: (yes, i used
to do
that, at
that age. it was fun, fwiww.)
mircea_popescu: dude's such a public danger, why doesn't he go around at night
through
the ghetto bumping into derps and immitating anything
they say!
trinque: the louder my "countrymen" shout about nonsense
the more I smell pissed pants
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so don't hold open
the door
to
THAT OFFICE
then!
trinque: so no,
they're not going
to lash out at
the monster, just some weird looking guy if
they run across one
trinque: they simultaneously derive some kind of self-esteem from
this fact
trinque: americans are subconsciously
terrified of
their own govt
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> hanbot do you recall which article
that was ? < i apparently don't
mircea_popescu: if white bitches spent more
time learning how
to
twerk at age 6, perhaps anyone'd give a lot more of a shit about
the problems of white
trash.
BingoBoingo: Mostly noveau poor lacks
the refinement of
the old poor which prevents
them from going full orc and riding
the welfare
train
mircea_popescu: not like black dude cold-called you and persuaded you
to be poor, motherfuckar!