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BingoBoingo: And re: keeping up with chaintips - Quite a few big as ships lined up off short waiting for their turn in port.
BingoBoingo: Well, LATAM is a big place
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/as-it-turns-out-fireworks-do-not-photograph-well-navidad-in-the-land-of-tranquility/#comment-114450 << And a comment
mod6: will see if I can clean it up a bit more tomorrow.
mod6: asciilifeform: found ~a~ solution: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ypJpa/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:57 phf: that would be a very gruesome science fiction narrative, if that was actually the case. a kind of strugatsky's roadside picnic :>
trinque: maybe we're not far from a sane p2p chat implementation
trinque: anyhow I wrote it; ben_vulpes added a patch.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760186 << how do you waste hours on a couple hundred line program ☝︎
asciilifeform: it isnt a work of art, but it did work.
asciilifeform: iirc i posted a battlefield-worn one in cl
asciilifeform: this is not a 'brinism' but quite elementary pons asinorum
asciilifeform: minimal pointerism, indirectism as a whole.
asciilifeform: there is a 'non-malicious c', i suppose.
asciilifeform: there is not, however, a meaningful opposite.
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as maliciously-ugly c. i.e. what koch et al write.
phf: sounds like a decade update attempt to cryptonomicon
asciilifeform: 'anathem' is many things, and one of them is a what-if-naturalphilosophy-had-happened-in-monasteries.
mircea_popescu: but, do not give managers a black eye. i for one often can't understand c.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-29 02:57 esthlos: it seems specifically designed to reduce the intelligence of the programmer to what a manager can understand
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760177 << funny, im pretty sure this was in the logs. as a naggum quote. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: they were major factor in why there even IS a papacy in the first place, though.
mircea_popescu: in any case, a good few generations.
phf: i sort of assumed (and that was sometimes topic of these derivative works) that mandate doesn't last more then a generation or two
mircea_popescu: a sorta miller-nin "payability test" if you will.
mircea_popescu: i expect the way these generally work is, starved copywriter threw some shit together while hungover. since it was bought he put a little more work into it later on.
phf: it's not the case for canticle (where it is sort of accidental, in a sense that "everything's so fucked that nobody cares, but when they do we have Electric Light!")
mircea_popescu: anyway, the important part in the actual history is that the abbey was de facto sovereign ~deliberately~, set up that way by the duke on purpose. i dun recall exactly the us retcon, but it was accidental if memory serves ? which is already a reduction, in my view.
mircea_popescu: there is A REASON "european civilisation" bla bla, and that reason is the remarkable stability introduced through unlikely means. a sort of humour.
phf: one is an accumulation of knowledge on the subject of history in your head, the other one is a written book of that title, that one, if one were so inclined, could track down and read :)
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma put the thing on sumthing that ain't a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760270 ☝︎
asciilifeform: !A ([you can put (whatever) [you] {want} here but orc☭gra☭ms get dropped] comments) [take precedence over []]
asciilifeform: !A [you can put (whatever) [you] {want} here but orc☭gra☭ms get dropped]
phf: !A [http://btcbase.org/lo][g/2017-12-29#1760407]
asciilifeform: !A help
asciilifeform: that's a 1672-bit num
phf: the nick is going to make a difference, it's 250 characters by the way
asciilifeform: !A .~#
asciilifeform: !A help
ben_vulpes: what i did for candi was to link a paste
mircea_popescu: whjatever fits a line
asciilifeform: pehbot largely lives as a toy / ch4 exam.
mircea_popescu: !A help
asciilifeform: !A .2.1>#
asciilifeform: !A .1.2>#
asciilifeform: !A .2.1<#
asciilifeform: !A .1.2<#
mircea_popescu: it's actually not a bad film.
phf: test !A .1.1##
phf: !A .1.1[foo ]#[=]#
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 01:36 asciilifeform: in other near-term lulz, a 'pbot' is in the worx, so that folx can play with various input->output pairs in-chan
asciilifeform: !A [[]]]
asciilifeform: !A [[]]
asciilifeform: !A [[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]
mircea_popescu: !A .F00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000A.F00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000B-[=]#
asciilifeform: !A .3.1^#
asciilifeform: !A .2.1^#
asciilifeform: !A .A.B.1U#
asciilifeform: !A .A.B.0U#
asciilifeform: !A .~#
mircea_popescu: nice. will make a great tool i expect, can reference bot in examples etc.
asciilifeform: !A ..0-O#
asciilifeform: !A ..1-O#
asciilifeform: !A ..1-O
asciilifeform: !A .1.2+#[=]
asciilifeform: !A (the point of [someshit] is to output valid pcode like) [.1.2+#[=]]
asciilifeform: !A [this prints some text] (but this is a comment)
pehbot: asciilifeform: this prints (but this is a comment) some text
asciilifeform: !A [this prints (but this is a comment) some text]
asciilifeform: phf: i'ma tell you a seekrit : it'll be R and L, ( 2 - 1 ) in forthological notation
phf: !A [or rather ].1"#[ ]000#
phf: !A [eg: ].1"#000#
asciilifeform: !A help
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform !A help would be nice once you get around to it.
asciilifeform: !A [☭☭☭☭☭☭☭some actual text ☭☭☭☭☭]
phf: mircea_popescu: well, i thought he's got some minimalist tendencies, like left shift is done with a bunch of 0's and right shift is done with a combination of twig and rock
phf: cause you can do a ghetto left shift with 000 :>
asciilifeform: !A [not yet]
asciilifeform: !A [foo]
mircea_popescu: !A asciilifeform
mod6: i kinda like this thing, and while your loper posts are fresh, i'd like it hang for a bit.
phf: didn't we have a candi session!
phf: though come to think of it, in colorforth it'll make things more expensive (since now each digit basically costs a header-and-a-word's-worth)
phf: i feel like you chould email it to chuck moore, he'll get a kick out of it "saves 25 bits on my greenarray cluster!"
asciilifeform: i'ma have to make a znctronic clone
phf: well, . puts a zero and the 1-9A-F mutates the top, so you don't have to have state in the parser
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: somehow didn't click, at first, the depth to which it was a kludge, lol
asciilifeform: yea this is a draft
phf: oh it's a swap
asciilifeform: it's a swap , phf
phf: ascii: isn't ' a dup?
asciilifeform: it lives inside a slime atm. i'ma leave it up for a spell, in case anybody wants to play.
phf: thing expects a complicated challenge response state machine to happen
phf: i had that experience when i tried implementing an older spec of gossipd. i wrote it in C, actually CWEB, but i wasn't doing literate programming right, and after a while the whole thing became overwhelming.
phf: i mean, if you read norvig's python snippets you can clearly see they are written by a very experienced lispers. you literally never see python like that in the wild, but yet there it is. ☟︎
esthlos: it seems specifically designed to reduce the intelligence of the programmer to what a manager can understand ☟︎
phf: that would be a very gruesome science fiction narrative, if that was actually the case. a kind of strugatsky's roadside picnic :> ☟︎
phf: please do, it would be useful as a reference, but also for me specifically: btcbase.org/patch is written in common lisp, but it can only eat vpatches, not spit them out, so a mcilroy would be a solid addition
phf: this follows ascii's pattern of trying to bend existing tools to our needs, before we know enough to do a greenfield rewrite. there's a lot of ideas floating around what v is supposed to do. a clean rewrite of mcilroy could serve as a basis for further work, but you should perhaps follow discussion in the logs on the subject to get the full scope of the problem
phf: what you have on top of original paper is unified diff format and the handling of multiple files in a single patch. (that's where you run into the bulk of extra code; things like sorting directory is simply unpleasant to do in C)