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gabriel_laddel: I'm just leaving
this in
the logs on
the off chance someone decides
to play around with it.
gabriel_laddel: ftr, when using manardb you'll have
to force it
to init on reboot by creating a junk mmap'ed class.
gabriel_laddel: OSICAT is a unix bindings library, download/build
that program, it'll CFFI some stuff and kosher.
ben_vulpes: Symbol "MREMAP" not found in
the OSICAT-POSIX package.
trinque: he doesn't hate
the world enough
to say it should change
decimation: stroustrop appears
to 'hate' garbage collection because (correctly) hardware fucks him
ben_vulpes: this is why i don't
talk
to programmers i don't know about programming.
gabriel_laddel: me: "lisp makes meta-programming
trivial" him: "if it did
they'd rule
the world already, and
therefore I don't have
to consider your argument"
decimation: the most amusing bit
to me was his little diatribe against garbage collectors
trinque: gabriel_laddel: did you punch him in
the dick?
decimation: actually I did go
through
the slides on
that stroustrup
talk
trinque: asciilifeform: obligatory reference
to fake stroustrup interview
decimation: asciilifeform: my experience is
that much of
this kind of
thing is only learned by 'tried, fucked me'
trinque: "JS and JSON,
therefore ..." << is
the process of "design"
that shat all
this
ben_vulpes: some engineer somewhere in some corp decides
to play with it for a week, people who wrote dumbthing get email of concern from said engineer, decide
to advertise as "running bigcorp"
decimation: from my own meatwot,
the 'benefit'
to mongo is
that it can scale, because it 'runs
twitter' or some shit
ben_vulpes: client blew
their budget on ie8 css compatibility in a half-assed single page js app
trinque: not
that sql's great, but every "db" in
that whole wave of shit can be forgotten
gabriel_laddel: trinque: does elephant allow you
to redefine classes without restarting?
trinque: so now I'm going
to grow
to like
this, and
then I'm going
to be stuck later wondering why something I've done is slow
trinque: I've done horrible
things working with
trees in SQL
trinque: I get a
tree, in a database!
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i may yet end up with a set because of
this reason.
ben_vulpes: such as i have not seen in my career
to date.
ben_vulpes: trinque: go, read. a marvel of
technical writing.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: only need one - for
the woman
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re statice, what parts wouldn't make sense?
the
thing is explained in painstaking detail.
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 01:01:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: attended another costco
today
ben_vulpes: trinque: have you started reading
the statice manual?
trinque: I have an inkling of being able
to do
the same
thing in lisp, but you know, grew up in
the congo, working on it
trinque: asciilifeform: reasoning with sets and
their relationships is why I use
the db heavily in work
PeterL: The river running
through my
town has a "don't eat
the fish" rule because of some
toxic spill upstream from 20 years ago
BingoBoingo: <decimation> it's actually almost impossible
to
tell exactly what kind of fish you are eating in
the us << Catching own fish is possible
trinque: runs directly contarary
to your idea of knowing
the cost of an operation
trinque: I'll admit I got a bit uncomfortable seeing a keyvalue
table
trinque: this is an experiment
to see whether I can
transplant my standard patterns of db use
to lisp
trinque: ben_vulpes:
took some very minimal notes, may share when I feel like I know what I'm doing
ben_vulpes: <trinque> asciilifeform: got elephant working with postgresql, wasn't
too bad << share!
mircea_popescu: "listen dear,
the arab prince has a friend. would you..."
mircea_popescu: "well... uhh... i'd never... you know we're behind on
the mortgage and
that nsa check is late..."
mircea_popescu: old man schmuckssen calls over his wife. "honey,
there's an arab prince at
the door, wants
to fuck you silly for a million bucks. what should i say
to him ?"
mircea_popescu: "daddy, daddy, i heard
these mean kids use
two unknown words.
theory and practice. do you know what is
the difference ?"
mircea_popescu: after reading b-a log for
the first
time, little gavin schmuckssen went
to his father
mircea_popescu: did i ever recount
the joke about practice and
theory ?
PeterL: with my scheme, just set
the max-size
to 0 and it
turns
the mempool off
PeterL: yeah, but it makes sense
to have -some- relay built into reference version
mircea_popescu: dude stop confusing can and will be. alf can pick up prostitutes in buenos aires,
too.