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mircea_popescu: i had no such obligation, quite specifically.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: he did not fulfill his contract, no.
mircea_popescu: the court can't substitute its own moral judgements for the contract between the parties.
mircea_popescu: this can not be a mistake. it's not part of the deal.
mircea_popescu: which is insane.
mircea_popescu: pigeons except the loser is the party that made no mistake.
mircea_popescu: if people wanted to gamble they'd go to sdice
mircea_popescu: that's no consolation.
mircea_popescu: i mean, why ? run the risk of purely unilateral sidetaking... to what avail ? makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: but i squarely don't see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure, yeah.
mircea_popescu: turns out this banal case was actually incredibly fucking intricate huh.
mircea_popescu: that's not what a judge does.
mircea_popescu: jcpham there's gonna be lol.
mircea_popescu: well rota is well fucked then.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes.
mircea_popescu: there's that in the current faq
mircea_popescu: DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount.
mircea_popescu: jcpham it's in the old options page somewhere
mircea_popescu: again, this isn't fiat world and socialist government imposing it.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, it's not. the court isn't above the contract
mircea_popescu: wtf is that lol.
mircea_popescu: " reasonable" ?!
mircea_popescu: "nothing other than the fees" is btc.
mircea_popescu: but it's half the story, and not good enough.
mircea_popescu: that's fine.
mircea_popescu: "he paid 130+10 and should get back 140"
mircea_popescu: jcpham in no interpretation of fairness can you promote a judgement based on one single party's pov.
mircea_popescu: well i guess not.
mircea_popescu: the entire point is to have voluntary courts, which is to say, courts which can be relied on to be fair. by both parties.
mircea_popescu: dub the idea here is to create a new system, not to rehash the old.
mircea_popescu: no but wtf bs is this, "We are too good for the case at hand"
mircea_popescu: if that actually is the case, i should certainly dissolve it.
mircea_popescu: dub cheeky ruling then.
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: not by those who we identify as "the man" in our misguided quest for social justice.
mircea_popescu: not by those who are the bigger entity
mircea_popescu: not by those who have the most money.
mircea_popescu: pigeons mistakes are paid for BY THOSE WHO MAKLE THEM
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah. same thing.
mircea_popescu: pigeons "it happens" ?
mircea_popescu: which is pretty boneheaded.
mircea_popescu: basically this is a ruling saying "it is right and proper for people to disregard instructions and send anything they want to mpex"
mircea_popescu: except in btc there's no such thing.
mircea_popescu: sorta like i'm the government, i guess.
mircea_popescu: dub it reads like mp taxing himself to create the system, and paying people to be idiots and subvert deposit process.
mircea_popescu: this is literally "he should get the keys, the stamps for having asked and if we could we'd have given him all paid tow weeks vacation to boot"
mircea_popescu: dub justice is apparently too prudish for me.
mircea_popescu: but you can't get more ffs.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, you may ask for the keys back, and even get them
mircea_popescu: i think for everyone else its "o, that thing that couldn't have worked didn't ? o wow."
mircea_popescu: i doubt it has any relevance to anyone other than the ppl involved tho
mircea_popescu: dub quite.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's so fascinating lol
mircea_popescu: i dun particularly want to preserve it
mircea_popescu: dude... comments are always and in all circumstancess visible.
mircea_popescu: comments are always free ?!
mircea_popescu: why hasn't this lively debate take place in teh comment section ?!
mircea_popescu: what i most of all wonder is,
mircea_popescu: 130.0 is random.
mircea_popescu: and the trouble of finding them again
mircea_popescu: for the tiome you couldn't go inside cause you didn't have your keys or w/e
mircea_popescu: then expect they pai
mircea_popescu: dude i dunno, seriously, mail your house keys to some random address
mircea_popescu: pigeons shit he missent.
mircea_popescu: dub well quite possibly.
mircea_popescu: jurov hey, at least it's fair.
mircea_popescu: jurov cause that's unfair to the poor.
mircea_popescu: i have no choice, obviously.
mircea_popescu: dub yup
mircea_popescu: all it takes is for them to send rounded btc.
mircea_popescu: peopel can now claim infinite btc from me.
mircea_popescu: dude. you created a pump.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: it has to be quite arrowstraight.
mircea_popescu: erring on either side is equally bad.
mircea_popescu: pigeons you forget it's a voluntary system.
mircea_popescu: i guess lol
mircea_popescu: in spite of no qualifications, prior experience etc.
mircea_popescu: pigeons so that you may prove yourselves as actually takeable seriously as judges
mircea_popescu: mod6 blue or red ?
mircea_popescu: i expected the guy to win his 130 btc back.
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect to win dood.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what's gonna be the next one
mircea_popescu: i think this has been discussed to it's demise
mircea_popescu: aaanyways.
mircea_popescu: the fact that all btc goes to the same address means nobody's deposits or withdrawals can be traced.
mircea_popescu: lol why'd anyone bet on that ?
mircea_popescu: are you fucking nuts ? ffs.
mircea_popescu: dub kakobrekla pigeons IT CREATES ANONIMITY
mircea_popescu: lol mkay.
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, i guess this shows why the random person, even if well meaning, can not be a judge.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i didn't "cause" him to send rounded numbers dood.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't stupid it wouldn't end in a court.
mircea_popescu: dub all shit to be settled is stupid
mircea_popescu: 100 times a day.
mircea_popescu: well tell you what, that's no way to judge.
mircea_popescu: rigjht.
mircea_popescu: do you plan to answer or should i just drop it ?