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mircea_popescu: but yes, the idea was always the same.
mircea_popescu: i think you're thinking the old mpoe page faq
mircea_popescu: no i just added it now.
mircea_popescu: jcpham yes.
mircea_popescu: anyone see room for misinterpretation ?
mircea_popescu: and bold face.
mircea_popescu: there, last sentence in red.
mircea_popescu: eported as profits and distributed to MPEx shareholders.
mircea_popescu: DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount. Incoming Bitcoin that doesn't exactly match a quoted sum will be simply kept, r
mircea_popescu: thios was proofed like 8 times. STILL SPELLING ERRORS IN IT OMG
mircea_popescu: defition lol
mircea_popescu: haha ty.
mircea_popescu: By defition the rightful owner of any coins is "he who can send them". If you take issue with that, please stick to fiat. You are not ready for Bitcoin yet.
mircea_popescu: 23. What will you do about stolen coins ? How will you help the rightful owner ?
mircea_popescu: i changed like 3 months ago
mircea_popescu: lately i write in english, still ?
mircea_popescu: you can go to #trilema.
mircea_popescu: why, we drownign out the assbot ?
mircea_popescu: once he finally signed the thing
mircea_popescu: pigeons he only made it clear at the rota, actually.
mircea_popescu: Before sending the sum quoted you have to send an email containing at the very least the address you want benefits (through either the later exercise or sale of your contracts) forwarded to and the sum quoted to you. This allows you to be identified. If you fail to do this it may be impossible to ever identify you as the owner of the respective contracts/bitcoins, and so they may be forever lost.
mircea_popescu: jcpham let me dig it up
mircea_popescu: pigeons why would i "settle before the rota" ? what bs is that?
mircea_popescu: what's unreasonable tho, is to expect me to pay the costs of doing so.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i guess so.
mircea_popescu: jcpham i quoted it above, grep deposits
mircea_popescu: that's idiocy.
mircea_popescu: i can clearly see in retrospect how this "obvious" point was only obvious to me.
mircea_popescu: reading the above, i now regred i didn't more clearly stress the supremacy of contract point
mircea_popescu: jcpham yeah.
mircea_popescu: because i was nice and you were stupid, tbh.\
mircea_popescu: i had no such obligation, quite specifically.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: he did not fulfill his contract, no.
mircea_popescu: the court can't substitute its own moral judgements for the contract between the parties.
mircea_popescu: this can not be a mistake. it's not part of the deal.
mircea_popescu: which is insane.
mircea_popescu: pigeons except the loser is the party that made no mistake.
mircea_popescu: if people wanted to gamble they'd go to sdice
mircea_popescu: that's no consolation.
mircea_popescu: i mean, why ? run the risk of purely unilateral sidetaking... to what avail ? makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: but i squarely don't see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure, yeah.
mircea_popescu: turns out this banal case was actually incredibly fucking intricate huh.
mircea_popescu: that's not what a judge does.
mircea_popescu: jcpham there's gonna be lol.
mircea_popescu: well rota is well fucked then.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes.
mircea_popescu: there's that in the current faq
mircea_popescu: DEPOSIT|{sum}, where the sum is an integer, written in BTC (note that you can not deposit less than 10 BTC). You will be quoted an exact sum, which you must send to the exchange address (1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx). Don't round anything, the decimals are there to identify you as the beneficiary. You will be credited the full amount.
mircea_popescu: jcpham it's in the old options page somewhere
mircea_popescu: again, this isn't fiat world and socialist government imposing it.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, it's not. the court isn't above the contract
mircea_popescu: wtf is that lol.
mircea_popescu: " reasonable" ?!
mircea_popescu: "nothing other than the fees" is btc.
mircea_popescu: but it's half the story, and not good enough.
mircea_popescu: that's fine.
mircea_popescu: "he paid 130+10 and should get back 140"
mircea_popescu: jcpham in no interpretation of fairness can you promote a judgement based on one single party's pov.
mircea_popescu: well i guess not.
mircea_popescu: the entire point is to have voluntary courts, which is to say, courts which can be relied on to be fair. by both parties.
mircea_popescu: dub the idea here is to create a new system, not to rehash the old.
mircea_popescu: no but wtf bs is this, "We are too good for the case at hand"
mircea_popescu: if that actually is the case, i should certainly dissolve it.
mircea_popescu: dub cheeky ruling then.
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: not by those who we identify as "the man" in our misguided quest for social justice.
mircea_popescu: not by those who are the bigger entity
mircea_popescu: not by those who have the most money.
mircea_popescu: pigeons mistakes are paid for BY THOSE WHO MAKLE THEM
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah. same thing.
mircea_popescu: pigeons "it happens" ?
mircea_popescu: which is pretty boneheaded.
mircea_popescu: basically this is a ruling saying "it is right and proper for people to disregard instructions and send anything they want to mpex"
mircea_popescu: except in btc there's no such thing.
mircea_popescu: sorta like i'm the government, i guess.
mircea_popescu: dub it reads like mp taxing himself to create the system, and paying people to be idiots and subvert deposit process.
mircea_popescu: this is literally "he should get the keys, the stamps for having asked and if we could we'd have given him all paid tow weeks vacation to boot"
mircea_popescu: dub justice is apparently too prudish for me.
mircea_popescu: but you can't get more ffs.
mircea_popescu: jurov no, you may ask for the keys back, and even get them
mircea_popescu: i think for everyone else its "o, that thing that couldn't have worked didn't ? o wow."
mircea_popescu: i doubt it has any relevance to anyone other than the ppl involved tho
mircea_popescu: dub quite.
mircea_popescu: that's why it's so fascinating lol
mircea_popescu: i dun particularly want to preserve it
mircea_popescu: dude... comments are always and in all circumstancess visible.
mircea_popescu: comments are always free ?!
mircea_popescu: why hasn't this lively debate take place in teh comment section ?!
mircea_popescu: what i most of all wonder is,
mircea_popescu: 130.0 is random.
mircea_popescu: and the trouble of finding them again
mircea_popescu: for the tiome you couldn't go inside cause you didn't have your keys or w/e
mircea_popescu: then expect they pai
mircea_popescu: dude i dunno, seriously, mail your house keys to some random address
mircea_popescu: pigeons shit he missent.
mircea_popescu: dub well quite possibly.
mircea_popescu: jurov hey, at least it's fair.
mircea_popescu: jurov cause that's unfair to the poor.