asciilifeform: could - theoretically - be seen again, one day

asciilifeform: when king takes the gold, it is still there, somewhere

asciilifeform: as it is, the industry is ~intrinsically~ usgtronic

asciilifeform: the coveted 'garden of eden' situation where ~there isn't a microshit~, when there is not a usg department-of-computing that has its tentacles in every orifice - won't be coming back until some quasi-mythical breakthrough decentralizes chip fabbing

asciilifeform: just as was the case after the fall of ibm. ☟︎

asciilifeform: one of the hyenas fighting over the corpse (google et al), plus the still-living organs of the corpse, will become the new microshit.

asciilifeform: y as a marketing gimmick, of course you don't want to warrant, support, or maintain it, and of course nobody would even dream of paying royalties for it, they can just get another cheap pen or T-shirt or shirnk-wrapped software package of the shelf somewhere else.'

asciilifeform: onsequences of bad (working to destroy) and sometimes evil (intended to destroy) policy and ignorant idiots with too much power. One of the consequences is that software development is paid for over the marketing budgets, like cheap plastic pens with logo imprints that work no longer than you remember where you got it and T-shirts of so low quality that they couldn't have been sold as clothes -- when you give some trinket awa

asciilifeform: inability of societies to value software properly, and hence the "protection" the software industry got in the Y2K scare, the ability to skirt warranty and every other consumer protection law, the non-constitutionality of the War on Software Piracy (which is much worse than the absolutely insane War on Drugs measured in results and costs and accepted loss of personal freedom), and numerous additional deep-rooted and pandemic c

asciilifeform: ly those in the government offices in charge of squeezing the juice of out the produce of society. I think the software crisis has been created by the tax laws and government officials who were unable to understand the value of the computer industry products. Since the Western business world is operating very closely in a trigger-response pattern relative to changes to the tax laws, the regulators are fully to blame for the

asciilifeform: 'Personally, I think the whole business model of the software industry is rotten to the core. Microsoft is not even a contributory cause -- Bill Gates isn't smart enough to invent or create something like this. It used to be the norm that software was essentially free (gratis) and just vehicles to move hardware, which was tangible enough to make it easy for the anal-retentive beancounters to count and weigh and such, especial

asciilifeform: decimation: the naggum archive is probably the closest thing there is to a '#b-a log of common lisp'

asciilifeform: (if you fall into this category, you have already done this, you don't need to wait for some schmuck to tell you to)

asciilifeform: if you fall into this category, buy one of each, try.

asciilifeform: folks who bring in very tangible money from cl-related work, and want/need a serious support relationship, might benefit from franz or lispworks

asciilifeform: but is slow because of the very cross-platformy way in which it was written

asciilifeform: clisp is a mostly-standardcompliant implementation of the language - but very slow

asciilifeform: decimation: they both had crippled versions for download

asciilifeform does not use either of these products today

asciilifeform: (something for which that vendor was infamous. see naggum archive for some good flamewarz re: subject)

asciilifeform: decimation: sometimes even goes the other way! i was recently surprised to learn that 'lispworks' no longer charges per-runtime royalties

asciilifeform: decimation: the gif warz never end

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i confess that i have not attempted to run it

asciilifeform: hanbot: just this one!

asciilifeform: at any rate, this is kinda why we do the whole 7-bit ascii thing

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc this is standard sendmail behaviour ☟︎

asciilifeform: hanbot: if you do the above on your box, sig will verify.

asciilifeform: ('diff ak47_05243673e45fc4c4ce30467f8ffc003deec1d184.sh.sig ak47.sh.sig' rather than foo)

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here is proof. 'dos2unix -f ak47_05243673e45fc4c4ce30467f8ffc003deec1d184.sh.sig' then 'diff foo.sig ak47.sh.sig'

asciilifeform: BURN THE WORLD

asciilifeform: (left: the one in the gpggram. right: the one on turdatron.)

asciilifeform: tar.gz and encrypt to me, then pastebin

asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes if you still have the original of that thing on your disk, please send to me (gpg)

asciilifeform: and also interesting how this thing even got through jurov's turdatron

asciilifeform: still doesn't explain why the binary sig got 'cosmic rayed'

asciilifeform: ah - them

asciilifeform: and check the pgp sig

asciilifeform: on the ml.

asciilifeform: shinohai: yes, in the original post

asciilifeform: this having to restart thing is odd, and worrisome

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: avg. modulus is ~700 digits, which corresponds to ~2048 bits.

asciilifeform: (in decimal form, that is)

asciilifeform notices that phuctor Π(∀n) is most of a GB