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shinohai: now if I can only figure out what to do next
ascii_field: and thus have all the builders end up with actual same binary
ascii_field: it is the only way to get deterministic gcc
mircea_popescu: ie, it's the assembly line for phds all over again.
ascii_field: realize, thing is mostly cpu-agnostic
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: not so theoretical. we just had another fella successfully 'buildroot' moments ago.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field this theoretical "so and so will happen" is nice and good, but also is useless in this discussion. following hanbot's mega-explosive "hey, this shit dun work on the most commonly seen linux out there" has been enlightening.
BingoBoingo: Dice girl's nick was pikachujdc or something like that.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how do you figure this ?
mod6: <+ascii_field> if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer << :D
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2015 12:57:13; mircea_popescu: this is the one from dooglus' site that took her pic with a wooden something up her snatch right ?
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1213743 << Reddit derp and dice banner girl seem to be different ones ☝︎
ascii_field: if it doesn't - walk your box out behind the shed & shoot it, get a real computer ☟︎
ascii_field: if buildroot builds on your box - the rest will build
ascii_field: one of the beauties of going buildroot-only is that we will no longer have this crud to put up with.
mod6: ok one problem for sure that I noticed when executing the boost steps manually is that I didn't have realpath installed.
mircea_popescu: 550 IP 188.68.240.159 is blocked by EarthLink. Go to earthlink.net/block for
mircea_popescu: there shall be a lot of "withdraw and think about it" in the retard camp methinks.
mircea_popescu: "I hate to be hyperbolic, but want to understand ISIS or the Tea Party or Occupy or Charleston or Dylan? Look no further than Gawker and its ilk, which means look no further than twitter or your own so-called smartphone: We are making the world a miserable place. I’m glad I can withdraw and think about it."
shinohai: I missed the cross-dev builder heh
ascii_field: (will need a hybrid of the 'stator' script and the static cross-dev builder posted a while ago)
ascii_field: shinohai: there is not, presently, a working bitcoind for the pogo buildroot that is made by the recipe linked earlier.
shinohai: Never done this before :/
ascii_field: shinohai: what are you trying to achieve ?
mircea_popescu: because empire of retards over there.
mircea_popescu: "Two Fridays ago, when I read a story posted on Gawker that seemed to senselessly out a nobody for soliciting a gay porn prostitute, I immediately thought someone should be fired."
shinohai: Ok so now I have this, what should my next step be ascii_field
trinque: and I've gleaned some of the striking parallels between the USSR and the present USSA by listening to you gentlemen.
trinque: I'll do some reading on both; I am curious generally about the (seemingly) ever-repeating process of collapse
decimation: anyone who works for a soulless bureaucracy would immediate recognize the similarities
decimation: trinque: I got the flavor of some of it from the writings of Solzhenitsyn
ascii_field: orlov: 'There is a bug in blogger where it sometimes publishes a post even if the date is set in the future. I disabled feeds to work around it.'
ascii_field: commenter: 'The article showed up on your RSS feed yesterday. That is probably how Zero Hedge got it.'
ascii_field: (however, he is almost entirely unconcerned with the politics, only the consequences in daily life)
ascii_field: if you are only concerned with the collapse, orlov's 'post-soviet lessons' is notbad
ascii_field: trinque: i know of no 'go-to' secondary source re: the whole shebang
trinque: ascii_field: do you recommend a starting-point book on USSR history, or is the material not in english?
ascii_field: and many toeholds for u.s. state dept., 'voice of america', hyoooman rightz
ascii_field: after that - 'stagnation period' and brezhnev, and discontent, and 'dissent'
ascii_field: easy to hold 'mandate of heaven' while subjects are convinced that they are being 'lifted'
decimation: ^ but also the occasional road project 'for the people'
trinque: but I see how the cost increases for each round
decimation: mainly for minerals today, but tomorrow the people
ascii_field: apparently they were desperate enough to try africa.
decimation: sure, which is why they are in africa
trinque: maybe china will look elsewhere for people to step-up; iirc they are already doing this
decimation: because their parents were dirt farmers
trinque: I can certainly see how that level of devotion would wear out
ascii_field: folks who are not resentful, as you and i would be if we were chained to factory tomorrow
trinque: I shall read the thread
ascii_field: (start of thread - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2015#1033279 ) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2015 16:31:47; asciilifeform: this is, by some indications, a non-renewable resource that's getting burned up rather quickly
trinque: *that they
trinque: and if they pulled off something like that, I'd not think them so naive they think they can do that forever
trinque: they've done that masterfully
trinque: I see the chinese strategy as having been to bootstrap their own industrial economy by sucking the life out of ours. (obviously not an observation hard to come by)
assbot: Intel Corporation - Intel Enters into Strategic Agreement with Rockchip to Accelerate, Expand Portfolio of Intel-Based Solutions for Tablets ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpNtwQ )
decimation: http://www.intc.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=850623&ReleasesType=Corporate%20News < heh since intel saw rockchip as an obvious enemy it decided to 'partner' first
shinohai: Since it is too hot for tea, I chose a more refreshing drink this time around.
trinque: sure but on the one hand one could discuss tactics against the USA, and on the other, a sort of aspirational "best"
ascii_field: (and grandchildren will, by all indications, have them again)
ascii_field: why fight lice, fleas? our ancestors had them
ascii_field: no reason - manking got along without this, too, for quite a while.
trinque: or they'll die too
trinque: worry about being better than themselves after we're dead
trinque: they can just eat the food we feed them
trinque: why do they need to design new chips from scratch to unseat the USA as the leading economic and military power?
ascii_field: when somebody like me says 'let's design computer from scratch', a 'roi/tco' type reads 'let's make a megatonne pyre of money and light it'
ascii_field: decimation: it is exactly that
decimation: ascii_field: for example do you suppose 'rockchip' is nothing more than a pile of 'stolen' cores?
trinque: they'll get to the design too
ascii_field: decimation: there is not the slightest sign whatsoever of this ever happening
trinque: ascii_field: they're busy inventing factories
decimation: ascii_field: I suppose at one point cadence will get similar treatment
ascii_field: wake me up when cn is using something other than winblowz (and stolen american designs, e.g., 'arm' wholesale) in their fabs
decimation: they eat from below; apparently once the bathwater is circling the tub - management & hedge funds come to eat 'from the top'
trinque: good for them; they have the good sense to... make... things...
decimation: meanwhile the chiense are busy putting us hardware companies out of business
trinque: not all of which are utter morons, but these surely are
decimation: the fact that 'security' has been defined-down to 'managing /etc profiles' is the punchline
decimation: usg is nominally responsible for the 'security' of all of its computers and a good deal of its subsidary's
ascii_field: as far as i can see, it is an internal auditing tool
decimation: or they are just trying to half ass the halfass tools they have
ascii_field: and i can't fathom why anyone outside of usg walls would even consider using this
trinque: and they're distributing it thusly
trinque: I'm saying they have some puppet exploit
trinque: which touches every possible knob on system config
ascii_field: i can't bring myself to give half a fuck
trinque: ascii_field: sure, but the fact that this is a huge wad of ruby code for puppet amuses me to no end
trinque: wasn't "simp" what the semi-intelligent gorillas were called in Rama?
trinque: they're diving in with the redditards/shithubians directly?
decimation: "The entire idea of breaking Qualcomm up into two companies, for example, makes no sense from an ongoing business perspective — but it makes great sense if you’re an investor who believes the real money is in patent licensing (an extremely high-margin business) and not in chip manufacturing. "
decimation: the surface reading re: qualcomm: the management knows they are in a hole and therefore are colluding with outside investors to pirate assets from the company before it dies
decimation: ... share count at the end of fiscal 2014 was flat compared with five years before."
decimation: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/jul/11/qualcomm-jana-partners-stock-grants-microsoft/ < lol "One key issue for Qualcomm’s critics is shareholder dilution. Over the past five fiscal years, the company has spent $13.6 billion repurchasing 239 million of its own shares. These buybacks should have reduced the number of shares in the market, boosting shareholder value. But despite the buybacks, Qualcomm’s total ...
assbot: Don't whiz on, the electric fence! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAyo06 )
shinohai: I thought it would be funny if he actually stored a copy of his key "encrypted" on their server
trinque: I only tweet dickery, as a matter of principle
shinohai: and holy shit I got the patch to apply
trinque: I forgot about that