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asciilifeform: nubbins`: they sure did.
shinohai: How is Crapples iWatch thing going does anyone know?
nubbins`: asciilifeform they froze support for 2009 macbooks?!
asciilifeform: but to each - his own
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but generally i don't recommend an archaeologist's machine to a civilian << I recommend this one because hypercard. As a dare, for the ones that get it realize not all "advances" are such.
shinohai: It's like buying a Ferrari with the hood welded shut.
asciilifeform: the ones sold today are the same fucking x86_64 as the 2007 and on
asciilifeform: nubbins`: but what was their excuse for freezing support for 2009 macbooks ?!
BingoBoingo: <phf> ppc macs were nice. i spent years with a handmedown g3 ibook, running linux on it, and i still love that machine, probably for sentimental reasons << Bought one used with defunct vertical line on screen. Played with then closeted, then recycled. Prolly should have kept it.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i can even see how this was sorta justified by crapple (has 1 core, no gpu!)
nubbins`: macbook, still going strong. typing on it now while InDesign pumps out dead tree sheets
nubbins`: so it's essentially frozen in time
nubbins`: ipad sorta sucks now because it can't run the latest iOS and essentially zero new apps target the old versions
shinohai: I had a musician friend in Berlin that loved Macbooks for music. Specialized use tho.
asciilifeform: (unless he fesses up to being archaeologist)
asciilifeform: but generally i don't recommend an archaeologist's machine to a civilian
nubbins`: for a time, i developed "app store" apps as a hobby
phf: ppc macs were nice. i spent years with a handmedown g3 ibook, running linux on it, and i still love that machine, probably for sentimental reasons
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Time travel
shinohai: Playing "Oregon Trail" ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other than as word processor, what can you use that thing for ?
shinohai: Laptop I have now came with Win 8, which I never even booted in to.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You should really try a B&W Mac
shinohai: Heh. I have only "owned" 1 apple product ever, an ipad and that lasted a week before I gave it away in disgust.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it has the distinction of being the singularly worst-performing and most closed-source-chipsety machine for the money
nubbins`: jobs is marginally interesting for having fessed up to LSD usage, but as i understand it was generally a piece of shit otherwise
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Seems to address the much neglected niche of graphical www without any scripting. Apparently default browser on 'raspian'
nubbins`: fairly unlikely at this point tho.
nubbins`: at some point in my life, i'd like to require the rewinding of a motor
nubbins`: i like this guy
nubbins`: “Usually people just go for the motor,” says Bleyle.
nubbins`: Bleyle admits that repairs can be pricey, especially hand-rewinding a DC motor, which can run between US $30 000 and $40 000. But he says even a refurbished motor looks cheap compared with the $500 000 cost of replacing the elevator, not to mention the months of involuntary stair climbing during the upgrade.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1U54PmR )
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell shinohai played with Dillo today. Seems to be promising "graphical" www browser
asciilifeform: http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/san-franciscos-secret-dc-grid << they still have
nubbins`: or was it the pneumatic water-based lift thing
nubbins`: i vaguely recall this
asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc new york city's remaining dc grid was only shut down a year or two ago !
nubbins` can't keep track
nubbins`: nowadays they're riding the wave
nubbins`: once the foot's in the door, sure, act changes
nubbins`: nobody wanted windows, they wanted the experience of being dazzled by shiny things ☟︎
nubbins`: i find people don't want X so much as they want the experience of choosing/buying/being sold X
asciilifeform: it was a very specific thing
asciilifeform: it wasn't just any 'smooth talk'
nubbins`: smooth talkers win more often than not
asciilifeform: if you read the primary 'current warz' crap from 1880s-90s, it is hauntingly similar to microshit in 1990s-2000s
asciilifeform: (and crown thug force, and usg monopoly concessions)
asciilifeform: specifically, the one thing edison is known with certainty to have invented is inferior-tech-empire-propped-by-pseudoentrepreneurial-fud ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the philosophical (if not in any detectable way historical) continuity of microshit and edison's thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is probably a good time to mention a historical thesis i've chewed on in my head, on and off, for a decade or so
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 21:56:15; ascii_field: trinque et al: http://nosuchlabs.com:8000/keene.djvu
nubbins`: having a bad tech day and reminiscing about nightmares past isn't helping
nubbins`: anyway i gotta fuck off talking about that
assbot: The Art of the Metaobject Protocol: Gregor Kiczales, Jim des Rivieres, Daniel G. Bobrow: 9780262610742: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1gkBWor )
phf: a good common lisp book to have in addition to keene's clos book is AMOP http://www.amazon.com/The-Metaobject-Protocol-Gregor-Kiczales/dp/0262610744
nubbins` facepalms thrice, runs out of hands, uses desk
nubbins`: but of course they didn't update the API
nubbins`: and then literally reversed a bunch of the terms in the next version, so a site was now a web and a web was now a site ☟︎
nubbins`: they also reappropriated all these general words like "Site" and "Web" and gave them specific definitions
nubbins`: move over CSV, P/SCSV is the new kid in town
nubbins`: no kidding, every now and then some internal piece of code would return an array of strings as a single, very large string, with entries separated by the escape string "#;"
nubbins`: for a while i was paid to develop bespoke widgets for "microsoft sharepoint", a CMS/DMS that is the biggest piece of shit you'll never see
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 23:02:11; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215457 <<< clearsigned blobs are prolly limited to a subset of ascii amirite
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215464 << 7bit, but not only this, you also get mutilation (escaped dashes) ☝︎
nubbins`: dogecoin belongs in a "classic hype machines of the information age" textbook
nubbins`: mircea_popescu asciilifeform "physical doge" was totally a thing. iirc copper rounds?
nubbins`: i coulda SWORN i just typed in my pgp passphrase completely and utterly wrong
nubbins`: muscle memory is a weird thing
mircea_popescu: in other news : http://hardhandsworld.tumblr.com/post/83217145416 bitches be the hardest on bitches.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215327 << this reminds me of christina applegate wanting to buy a car, being quoted in "k"s and raiding the cornflakes boxes for them ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 20:33:13; ascii_field: anyway, notice that his reaction was ~NOT~ to visit therealbitcoin.org & get the real client.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215313 << thankfully. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: gotta love tardstalk. almost as good as washington post, in that it's not merely written by retards,
mircea_popescu: Simple fix then to a very big problem."
mircea_popescu: They need to make the next version use a better database system that is not linearly.
mircea_popescu: "wow ok. Sounds like nobody thought it would get this big.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform true enuf.
BingoBoingo: Prolly will still sell for more than Digg
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assbot: Brent Falls to Lowest Price Since January - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1eyeWQY )
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 21:58:15; trinque: I mean, the fucking thing should work on arbitrary bits wrapped in a signature
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215457 <<< clearsigned blobs are prolly limited to a subset of ascii amirite ☝︎☟︎
mats: ;;isup trilema.com
trinque: I mean, the fucking thing should work on arbitrary bits wrapped in a signature ☟︎
trinque: and that one's not signed
trinque: mats: there's a "section" sign in the footnotes
mats: any guesses on what character its moaning about this time trinque?
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 19:46:35; ascii_field: so far we've been trying to weasel out of maintaining a whole #b-a linux distro, but i'm not certain that it is avoidable.
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 21:40:30; mircea_popescu: this is quickly becoming the #1 problem for us.
trinque: I continue to discover new character sets which cause some or another component to barf
trinque: mats: it's probably that character
mircea_popescu: "The innovation machine is running at full speed in the wrong direction." << heh. yes, keep copies of your old browsers, for the new ones will be less and less useful.
shinohai: My first stator build failed at least 6 times.
shinohai: I'm not giving up. Just need a breather then perhaps it will clarify itself for me.
mircea_popescu: this is quickly becoming the #1 problem for us. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 18:54:32; shinohai: Yes. I have followed those instructions from the ml and still have no idea what I'm doing. I'm shoving this to the back burner.
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 18:45:34; ben_vulpes: in particular, "“[I’m looking for] 5:1 (risk /reward). Five to one means I’m risking one dollar to make five. What five to one does is allow you to have a hit ratio of 20%. I can actually be a complete imbecile. I can be wrong 80% of the time, and I’m still not going to lose.”"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215229 << this is about at the level of "i am looking for a HB8.5 for my wife." ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's cute the first 300 times. after which it starts to occur that "why am i hanging in a room where a 40 yo woman that STILL has dumb virgin perisexual issues derps on ?"