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trinque: unimpressed, and he wrote
the bot I based deedbot- on
trinque: and he went
total SJW on me
trinque: punkman: I said
to him
that
the guy who was run out of some ruby project for being catholic was wronged.
trinque: I'm gonna eventually write one
that works in CL
trinque: guy
that wrote
tenyks
told me I hate
trannies, fucking cunt
trinque: every irc bot is such a
turd
williamdunne: Oh, scoop is disconnected from IRC but not
the internet. I'll look into it
trinque: which dissolved, absent
the political structures which conditioned
them
that way elsewhere
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: I have a half-baked
theory
that america was merely running on
the fumes of
the hierarchical beliefs of people
that immigrated here
ag3nt_zer0: yeah we arent naive... and
the fact
that we preface our observations with
these "conditions" indicates how fucking cancerous
the psychic milleu is here in mcsoccermomland...
☟︎ punkman: BingoBoingo: "
to have been photographic "
trinque: BingoBoingo: an excellent perspective on
the news as ever.
☟︎ trinque: and I know
the answer
to my own question but... damn.
trinque: maybe I'm naive, but I'm certain
this was not always
the case
trinque: when
the fuck did america side with
the pussies
ag3nt_zer0: maybe it was
the drugs, but I remember
the 90s being quite different
ag3nt_zer0: I noticed a huge spike in
this shit post 911/patriot act fear + smartphone... seems
these events combined
to cinch
the asshole up
to inpenetrable proportion
trinque: oh, I've lamented
the lack of eye contact on
the street in Portland in
the hallowed logs
ag3nt_zer0: I hear
that people actually have
the strnegth
to acknowledge eachothers presence if, you know, colliding on
the street
trinque: excellent business culture in
tx
trinque: portland's ok if you can ignore or enjoy abusing
the communists
ag3nt_zer0: oh austin... both places are on my list as possibilities
to reside if I make it back from my
trip
ag3nt_zer0: aht part of
the states you in
trinque?
ag3nt_zer0: this room seems
to be
the only place wherein any
type of free discussion
takes place... not stultified by PC and other
too-intense sentimentalisms
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: exactly... not
to mention
the
twatbrains
that constitute
the majority of my contemporaries
trinque: I'd like
to do
the backpack
thing at some point
too
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: sounds like
the ussa bureaucracy has been rough, yeah
ag3nt_zer0: which means it hasnt been
that great haha but I am looking forward
to getting
the fuck out of here so
there is a light on
the horizon
phf: trinque: linux seems
to support everything and with some effort you could strip it down somewhat. i
think linux also has a policy of never breaking abi, so if you're into static compilation, like ascii said sometime ago "if stator binary breaks on your other linux something's very very wrong"
ag3nt_zer0: s'ok man... i started a countdown
that clicks away until I plan
to embark on a
two year backpack around
the world
ag3nt_zer0: hey
trinque same
to you... how's life?
trinque: my C++ is middling
to poor, but I can bash it up all day
shinohai: Hell, I even got it
to build on Ubuntu,
the dumbest of Linux systems I know of.
shinohai: Boost alone
takes like 10 hours
to build.
shinohai: trinque: *for*
the pogo. *on*
the pogo is just dumb.
trinque: I
tried it for
the hell of it a while back
trinque: because
the latter results in oomkill iirc
trinque: shinohai: are you
trying
to compile for
the pogo, or *on*
the pogo?
shinohai: If anyone gets rotor
to successfully build on
the pogo, please, by all means contact me.
mod6: <+trinque> asciilifeform: I don't
think he's saying
that, merely
that aside from
the makefile, perhaps
the larger build system should be a separate concern << exactly
this. Makefile stays ofc.
BingoBoingo: linux per se doesn't seem
to be
the problem so much as linus, as
traditionally implemented is
trinque: though I suppose in
terms of hardware support (pogo, so on) it does better.
trinque: I'm about ready
to give linux
the permaboot
trinque: phf: why's
that in your opinion?
trinque: I can see how
the
thing
tends
towards "If you wish
to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent
the universe" otherwise
trinque: but I'll let
the man speak for himself
trinque: I
think he's just
trying
to limit
the scope of what constitutes a foundation release
trinque: if it was
that, sounds pretty reasonable
to me
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't
think he's saying
that, merely
that aside from
the makefile, perhaps
the larger build system should be a separate concern
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 22:58:15; mod6: How one builds
the source is entire up
to
the user.
There may be preferred way so of doing
this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how
to do
this. But we no longer are going
to fight
through
these environment problems.
phf: trinque: probably same reason openbsd is not
the blessed b-a
target platform
☟︎ hanbot: trinque my sha512sum was of old, stale item. refreshed, matches,
tyvm.
☟︎ trinque: seems most of
their stuff would run happily atop it
trinque: the linux kernel is
the biggest wad of complexity in... linux
trinque: given
their expressed love of simplicity
trinque: I'm curious why
these guys don't seem
to have considered using openbsd as a basis
BingoBoingo: trinque: Linked from
that sta.li page you posted
trinque: dude,
there's a lot of
talent in
the suckless wot
shinohai: I'm a smoker, I have
tons of lighters. :D
shinohai: I like everything except
this goddamned pogo. If I had gasoline in
the house I'd set it afire
this very moment.
trinque: its clearly a separate concern from
the source itself, aside from which roof it is under.
mod6: That should be something
that you use for what we deliver.
mod6: That all being said, I'm super glad
that 'rotor' is out
there now, and I hope
to learn and use it one day myself. Maybe even
this week! But
that shouldn't be something
that we deliver.
mod6: And if someone wants
to run a dynamically linked version? Who are we
to
tell
them 'no'?
mod6: If asciilifeform needs a fully deterministic static bitcoind for his use,
then sure, he can use whatever means he needs
to achieve
that.
mod6: And
truly none of our business.
mod6: Trying
to create a one-size-fits-all script for everyone
to use
to build
this
thing is not going
to work. And how does one bundle up something such as 'rotor' and end up not maintaining buildroot and everything else?
That's a game
that I'm not interested in playing. And it's dangerous for us
to go
that direction.
☟︎ trinque: mod6: I
think
that's wise, actually.
mod6: Only in some sort of catestrophic circumstance will we do such a
thing.
punkman: just host
the dependencis on
therealbitcoin.org
mod6: How one builds
the source is entire up
to
the user.
There may be preferred way so of doing
this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how
to do
this. But we no longer are going
to fight
through
these environment problems.
☟︎☟︎ mod6: The Foundation isn't going
to ship
these builds scripts any more. We're just going
to ship source code for bitcoin.
☟︎ mod6: he expects everyone
to pull down
their own bundles.
mod6: because alf's original stator doens't have
that in
there.
punkman: mod6, yeah it worked now, but got html more
than once
mod6: anyway,
that has nothing
to do with anything
mod6: punkman: did you
try
the line above it first?
the first line: boost="
http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost" << sets a environment variable. is required for
the second part
to work: curl -L "$boost/1.52.0/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2" -s -o distfiles/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2
mod6: anyway,
this is all gonna change.
mod6: i put
this in
the stator.sh script. it pulls
them down, have
tried on 3 different environments of my own, and independantly verified 2x otherwise.
mod6: did you enter
the line above it first?
mod6: and
this is what all of my older v0.5.3.1 builds have pulled down for
the .tar.gz:
mod6: i get
the same
thing on mine --
the (bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST1.tar.gz has a script
that pulls
that one via curl command):