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decimation: That struts and frets his hour upon
the stage
decimation: but you need
to have
the most minimal, stripped down version possible
to meet
BingoBoingo: <decimation> It would be interesting
to see what weird stuff like 'green hills os' looks like << Probably just like 64-bit DOS
decimation: yeah it's not
the hardware, it's
the logic
decimation: it would be interesting
to see what golden
toilet prices buys in
terms of os
decimation: there's a long way from minix
to hardware
BingoBoingo: I'm looking forward
to March of 2017 where at
this rate Bitcoin successfully becomes a device.
decimation: It would be interesting
to see what weird stuff like 'green hills os' looks like
decimation: true. someone build centos
though, so it must be possible
decimation: redhat still ships with source dvd, if you download and burn
the isos
decimation: and
there's no bootstrap scripts as far as I know
decimation: redhat 6 is actually a pretty reasonable os, once you kill
the poetteringisms
mod6: on fbsd
there is a linuxcompat kernmod -- but it has issues if you make
too many i386 syscalls in your linux code. *shrug*
decimation: some bsd supports linux binaries I
think
mod6: i'll have
to
take another crack at rotor after month end.
mod6: it's going slow, but -verifyall and
to usbdrive
decimation: somehow
this xattr stuff must be magicked away
decimation: but
they have
thier own binary format, etc
decimation: macports does a pretty good job of porting standard gnu chain
to apple
decimation: but I have old crapple laptops
that I would like
to use
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 03:02:01; decimation: lol 'rotor' immediately fails on osx 10.10 with "You need at least one UTF8 locale
to build a
toolchain supporting locales"
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 02:34:07; mircea_popescu: sure, not
to date. but we're not going by
the criteria of what is easy, so we don't really care. if we won't have success for
the next decade we'll be here
trying it in 2026.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:50:12; mircea_popescu: "Note,
this is pretty much contrary
to what Ulrich Drepper reckons about static linking." << everywhere a gavin!
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:39:49; mircea_popescu:
this "pure code" approach is no different from every other "pure research" proposition - sure, you're purely able
to pursue pure goals now, but
the cost is any conceivable relevancy.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:39:10; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1217142 << doesn't have
to be a one size fits all. but if your software can't be built, your software doesn't exist. and it is still upon you
to explain how you expect users
to use your
thing - nobody is going
to go do
the guesswork of "what
the author might have meant", and ESPECIALLY no sane person should ever guess what "obvious" means for anyone else
decimation: on
the other hand, surely 'tar' builds on osx. perhaps another night
decimation: seems as
though linux and osx and bsd use different 'attr' functions
decimation: sigh a few more moles whacked and now
this (on osx): xattr-at.c:36:20: error:
too few arguments
to function 'setxattr'
mircea_popescu: yup,
that's
the only
time so far 3 appears alone as a factor.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, intrigeri is something crazy with
the bug reports, may be all-internet record holder)
decimation: heh yeah. apple makes up standards as
they go
mircea_popescu: decimation check it out,
they need a metalocale. hopefully implemented as multibyte
too!
mircea_popescu: just like phantomcircuit still goes around, an aethero waiting
to happen.
mircea_popescu: the funny
thing will be
that
this schmuck will still be going around pretending like he actually exists and so forth even after
this idiocy goes
the way of neobee and "bitcoin security experts group"
decimation: lol
the problem was
that buildroot was grepping 'locale -a' for utf8, while apple uses 'utf-8'
decimation: I'm sure
the homos at apple support utf8, but apparently it doesn't work with whatever buildroot wants
decimation: lol 'rotor' immediately fails on osx 10.10 with "You need at least one UTF8 locale
to build a
toolchain supporting locales"
☟︎ decimation: maybe
they can get into
the space business
too
decimation: one guess: hire a full-time staff of indians
to vigilantly search committed code for perceived slights
decimation: it's kinda
the same question as "what's apple gonna do with $60b"
mircea_popescu: no but just for my curiosity, what's github
to do with a quarter bil ?
decimation: apparently github has
turned into fark
mircea_popescu: decimation you kiddin' me, it could buy out all
the russia!
decimation: nobody has offered
to buy
the
thing for $2b as far as I know
mircea_popescu: at
the very least draw a schema of what and how needs done so people's offers
to help can be plugged in
mircea_popescu: anyway, you should prolly
take a bit of
time away from
the hands on work you love and do some management stuff.
mod6: ok well....
thanks for setting me straight.
mircea_popescu: decimation
that's what makes it suspicious. 20mn slashdot, 2bn github. because... reasons.
mod6: i agree. i'm just being careful not
to create more work for myself/others
than necessary.
mircea_popescu: but i'm pretty sure can't simply abandon
the entire userland question, it'd be a major strategic mistake.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i'm not entirely sure how
the specifics should work out. bit of an open question atm
trinque: after all,
that's apparently what it did for
the kernel devs, haha
trinque: punkman: yeah, I was
thinking my 4u could be a build/test box
punkman: I'm willing
to contribute Ansible scripts
to deploy/build/debug instances of bitcoind via ssh
to different machines. for automating some of
the
testing workload.
mod6: so should we still create scripts for people
to build without buildroot (i.e. stator.sh/auto.sh) and
then host packages for
the ability
to construct a buildroot with a drop-in of
the foundation source?
mircea_popescu: it could happenb
to sf, it can and definitely will happen
to github etc.