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asciilifeform: ( or perhaps could, but would have to station an army around it, and it begins to look economical in comparison to put it on ocean floor )
asciilifeform: the lulztwist is that here you cannot get the tall ceiling of that коммуналка even with 5 mircea_popescu-s worth of moola
mircea_popescu: we're substantially different things, i'm something, the poveraccio's not a thing.
mircea_popescu: i mean you're not them, substantially. if i shoot some schmuck they ask me "what i was thinking", if some schmuck shoots another they just dump him in the hole.
asciilifeform: baked out of 19th c. actual-people flat, as they came
mircea_popescu: much like medieval lords did not understand the amulet fervor of the peons.
mircea_popescu: they're incomprehensible and uninteresting to "patriarchy" aka the lordship principally because they're epiphenomena of poverty in a manner unexperienced.
asciilifeform: the interesting, imho, detail, is that i went and found what they pay. if you add up the rent of the 4 коммуналка derps occupying any of these, you get ~2x what asciilifeform pays for same sq. m.
mircea_popescu: one can't really understand "gender identity" or whatever, faggot-bla-bla without actually comprehending the demographics.
mircea_popescu: trend's been ongoing since at least the 70s, once the yellow flower of alabamy decided her only future's to go to new york to be a writer.
asciilifeform: somehow 'not Officially happening', but there they are
mircea_popescu: the girls that don't, remarkably, are even odds lost in smalltown idaho or other such nowherezeone horrors.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these -- yes the 'fyootoor', in last decade they tore down good % of the town around here and built honest sovok-style communal-by-design flats
mircea_popescu: but in more reality-anchored basis for discussion, i'd guess about one third of esl females in age range of interest live in communal arrangements. some are publicly run, aka "university dorms" ; some are privately run, of which as much as one third also illegally run.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: It has been a while. Turns out he got a job of sorts at a Confiteria. Sleeps in an actual bed most nights now.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: Also tonight I saw the good bum mentioned http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/#footnote_1_2160
asciilifeform: ( and this was not a d00d with outlandish standards )
mircea_popescu: i have no idea ; nor is this anything like an example.
asciilifeform: didn't sound esp. thrilled
asciilifeform: iirc gabriel_laddel was living in sumthing like this shortly before he finally sank
mircea_popescu: it's a very unevenly distributed thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the infestations are a by-scene thing. the art scene's not particularly lice-y. some music scenes are ; the sex scene may be, depending on the house mother. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: there's also the filthy sort, but that's more of a punk/pill scene.
asciilifeform: iirc that one was fulla xy
mircea_popescu: nah. artsy chicks are anxiously clean, these days.
asciilifeform: and moar lice than auschwitz barrack, betcha
mircea_popescu: more valuables there than in a whole suburbia's worth of soccer moms.
mircea_popescu: actually, this happens regularly. witness the "art studio" / squat that burned a few years ago.
asciilifeform: incl., but not limited to, triple-digit locking door square metrage, fiber, and fridge with roquefort.
mircea_popescu: if you define "living is exsting + jew" then yeah, i expect you won't find "living without jew".
BingoBoingo: ^ Here too, they get regularized and even then usually only when pasta base is involved
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me what you mean.
mircea_popescu: it's not even legal to take down ~illegal electricity connections~ they made, half the time.
asciilifeform: well in that vein, i even know (by name) actual hobos
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what difference does it make ? if you're rich, get 6x4x2 or w/e, not like you can't specify arrangement. might delay you a day. whopee. << Well trying to figure out if the Port or Puertito is a more appropriate place arrive.
mircea_popescu: more a thing in german-yurp than us, but a major thing nevertheless, on both coasts and in plenty of midwest pockets.
mircea_popescu: i know numerous chicks squatting. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is your usual "opionions of things i imagine" postmodernist show.
asciilifeform: withholding mortgageolade from the j00z -- the ur-crime in reich.
asciilifeform: on the coasts, diff story. you can get away with dealing dope by megatonne, in bmore, but just try live in container.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:42 mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a massive 'artistic' sculpture consisting of coupla dozen containers somewhere on the road to washington from here. they're plentiful, and folx in 'flyover' usa do sometimes live in'em ( see endless 'how i poured cement' http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-24#1899021 -derpery on 'youtube' etc. ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: now THIS is the sort of [interfaced] cvasi-boat alf could readily live on -- if everyone else also did.
mircea_popescu: once there's 20bn, the fare will be ~20k, except with inflation <1 bitcent.
mircea_popescu: there's maybe 20mn containers in the world.
asciilifeform: 3-4 , i suppose, if it's going to junkyard instead of marseilles and you can compact it a bit
BingoBoingo: Well, how many containers does the alf lab need?
asciilifeform: that'd rock, actually. the 1 annoying detail is that even at current fare ( what, 2k orcbux? from ny to marseilles ) the folx who can afford fare, dun care to live in container
mircea_popescu: go to paris via marseille without leaving you livingroom.
mircea_popescu: imagine, neighbourhood of the future, == port of the future. you sign the slip to where you wanna live next, they take you there.
BingoBoingo: I recall mircea_popescu had a story about folks trying to build stone house in the US
asciilifeform: not limited to 'ugly' ersatz housing, either. recall the mircea_popescu thread about some ro fella who thought he could get away with building a stone euro-style house in urban usa, where the locals could see it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, local control issue mostly. Universal building codes get adopted and at the local level derps enforce Stick Frames because the presence of deviant construction drops the relative value of the established derp's stick constructions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in usa would be moar common if were not artificially suppressed ( it is legal to be a hobo , but not to live in shipping container or anyffin else not Officially mortgaged via the lizards )
BingoBoingo: The more "affordable" option emerging are furnished, shipping containers. These however are a rural and outter barrio thing.
BingoBoingo: The locals like fire. Estufas de leña for winter and parrillas for asado. Lots are too narrow to not have disaster during the matchsticking.
asciilifeform: usa seems intent on replaying the career of the illustrative-idiot character in erry single trad folk tale. even 'the 3 pigs'.
asciilifeform: i dun even know presently what prevents it. possibly if the fast-growing pine thing usa uses, grew in south a, argentina + uy et al would already look like matchstick washington.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: your orcs , not yet invented the pretense. mix cement, pour, done.
BingoBoingo: Even Uruguayo socialist housing compared to the US... Seeing these how these 10-12 story towers go up is a trip.
asciilifeform: quite hilarious re 'houses' -- the other day there was a little gust of wind, certainly nuffin rising to the level of 'hurricane'. and then i go for a drive, and errywhere pieces of 'house' came off
asciilifeform found, by chance, a living descendant of the manor people. old woman, 9000 cats...
asciilifeform: ( manor -- pretty interesting in own light. literally entire town, incl. the university grounds, usedta be part of it pre-dekulakization. yet most of the folx living there nao, dun even know that the manor house exists. inside, threadbare museum, open 1ce a week or sumthing, souvenir shop. )
asciilifeform: ( see mircea_popescu's jefferson thread, etc )
mircea_popescu: it didn't last tho.
asciilifeform: there's an old slaveholder manor not far from asciilifeform . it is quite threadbare if you were to stand it next to the habsburg dwellings
mircea_popescu: it's very weird because for a good half of 20th century, us housing kicked SO MUCH ASS compared to yurp...
asciilifeform: even those, tend to be rather spartan per europistani standards
asciilifeform: picture-perfect 'just how much shit WILL they eat if never knew different' setup
mircea_popescu: there's of course ye olde brownstone tenements
mircea_popescu: those 1800s doods used whole trunks, half the time still round, to make the walls.
mircea_popescu: femstate lulz, the termites could prolly chew the trunks making up one original log cabin and spit out paper cells for a whole neighbourhood of contemporary drones.
BingoBoingo: Instead they just started using less wood and more petrol weird in their cabins
BingoBoingo: The failure to transition from temporary log cabins and clapboard to cob or ferrocement is yet another weird Anglo colonial quirk.
mircea_popescu: why would it! it priviledges the wrong criteria over considerations "much more important to us".
BingoBoingo: Not like the US is going to rediscover "cob" construction.
mircea_popescu: in practice, women make do, and the femstate as organized womanhood (whether you like it or not) will... well... see, it gets something in exchange for permanent defeat. it's indefeatable in its own terms now!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, it's self-limiting, if enough houses burn down it'll just be the new fashion. "this is how things ARE now" worked ok for new york in its slow descent to africa, what's to keep them.
asciilifeform: ( there's a reason why in old japan arsonists were invariably burned at the stake, i.e. same as for high treason )
mircea_popescu: "no, there's absolute truth, and absolute value of symbols. no means no ~objectively~" "since when ?"
asciilifeform: incidentally 'burned own house' is somewhat misleading , in we-build-from-matchsticks usa there is good chances of incinerating whole street
mircea_popescu: "there's nothing to realise, no means no" "to whom ?"
mircea_popescu: yet the very obvious "female accidentally displays agency, ends up in http://trilema.com/2015/gender-politics-and-the-war-on-will/ conundrum" is pretty lulzy. what is wrong, to be an activist or to set your house on fire ?
asciilifeform: pretty great. gotta wonder if these folx realize on some level that they're pouring the foundations for the eventual crematoria. ( or will be 'surprised', like the prev set )
BingoBoingo: Anyways, to be clear the arsonist fusser is XX chromosoned, presumably taking male steriod hormones for years if not decades.
mircea_popescu: obviously no-one's to say she wouldn't, especially seeing how of fucking course she would.
mircea_popescu: somewhat parallel to the very threatened reaction of girlies in a group of girlies, when i bid one come over. "if she goes to the slaugther when called to the slaughter, who's to say i wouldnt?!?"
mircea_popescu: sooo... in more practical terms, "old women everywhere fear that this one old woman's idle oldwomanhood's sudden collapse into active boyhood might be more than an isolated event"
asciilifeform: 'Meanwhile donations rolled in for Joly and Moore. The church hoped to raise $10,000 but quickly sped past that amount. By the time St. Johns and other groups were done they had collected $58,000, they said. In a Facebook post two days after the fire, Joly exhorted supporters not to respond to the blaze by threatening violence. “Yes, be angry, be very angry,” he wrote. “Use that anger to force good! Use that anger to make chang
BingoBoingo: Old women like fussing, as carried out by this old woman
mircea_popescu: they're pretty lulzy to watch, lost in their lala-land of "good that's done" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: 'As gay rights supporters try to reconcile Joly the crusader with Joly the alleged arsonist, they worry the arrest could be used to reverse all the good he has done' << lol!
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714. - Part II.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/another-week-another-us-hate-hoax-as-lgtbbq-activist-torches-own-house-killing-pets/ << Qntra -- Another Week, Another US Hate Hoax As LGTBBQ Activist Torches Own House Killing Pets
BingoBoingo: Less pressing as the headcase contents get flushed and refreshed with the re-reading, but it's a thing on the issues chart
mircea_popescu: debt is the only post-imperialist given.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I carry some technical debt, but as I've been learning since last year there's a lot of pressing cultural debt.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the problem with reading. the actual driver of length-ening is precisely this, one could produce shorter articles, but it's a time-to-read/space-to-write tradeoff.
BingoBoingo: Some trilemas I read quickly in 2013-2019 today take substantially more time to read as I correct and rebuild the working set in the headcase. Then again 2013-2017 I was mistakenly filtering for Bitcoin. But that filtering doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: there's no guarantee "writing an article" is a procedure that returns, in principle. maybe it ends that way.