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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu brings up interesting point. entirely possible that north kr will binge to death on reddit, like the red skinned man did on liquor, when the time comes ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'd rather see the best in all fields, including poisons.
mircea_popescu: it is a culture with a fucktarded, buggy, slow implementation of these
mircea_popescu: you know what ? there's a usable kb or two on github too
mircea_popescu: you can't backup live things.
asciilifeform: but somewhere in it could be a usable kB or two.
asciilifeform: and prior to 'worth of individual' and other crocks of shit which have spilled since- everywhere
mircea_popescu: not unless you imagine the stale sandwich 3 months in your fridge is a "backup copy" of a sandwich
asciilifeform: of civilization prior to mcd.
mircea_popescu: let them die.
asciilifeform: see the point of those ?
mircea_popescu: i do not see this.
asciilifeform: and this may almost make up for everything else
asciilifeform: recall the old thread about north kr?
mircea_popescu: some shields are simply not worth having. period. for any cost. they mostly cost "0" anyway.
asciilifeform: just like not having had tumblr pheminism in a language yet, is a great cultural asset
asciilifeform: some shields may cost more than they are worth. but i argue that not-having-britney-spears-in-your-language is worth ~something~ culturally
mircea_popescu: once he appears, it's the end.
mircea_popescu: i suppose phillipe equalite is the patron saint of dead languages.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter versailles (which is how and why french died) was not a castle, but a jail.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the greatest mysetery of life is that there are shields you want and shields you do not want.
mircea_popescu: corporate job is idem "a shield" for usian fucktards, like working "for the govtr" was a shield that still got germans hung and soviets spat on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to be clear, i won't recommend esperanto as a literary language. but will point out that it plays somewhat of the same role morse plays for 'hams', or sign language for the literate deaf. i.e. a ~shield against mainstream cultural poison~
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo it just so happens it died like 8 times to date. << So did actual Greek, as did actual Fortran.
mircea_popescu: this is why poetry worked back in the day the english aristrocracy imposed it on the masses, but esperanto and ebonics do not nor will ever work.
asciilifeform: used by precisely the folks 'together for reasonable reasons'
asciilifeform: see also orlov re: english being a technical pidgin
mircea_popescu: eople who stick together for "reasonable" reasons.)
mircea_popescu: (anyway, lest the esl reader acquires the wrong impression from the logs - at issue is not that the thing was done, per se. at issue is HOW the thing is done. which is to say : shockingly unexpected, which requires a) a large body of work against which to expect pre-existend and b) a language strong enough to shock against that. these are plain impossible requisites in "reasonable" languages, and they can't be met by p
asciilifeform: incidentally, anyone can learn to pronounce - with flavour! - these poemz
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it just so happens it died like 8 times to date.
mircea_popescu: but myeah. i am not the cunt's slightest fuck worried about assrussian.
asciilifeform: ^ these are all poems. in the style indicated above each (e.g., pushkin's)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have this beat: http://img.1001mem.ru/posts_temp/14-05-09/3513007.jpg
mircea_popescu: can stand up with fucking poe, and english doesn't just sprout forth poe when scraping its knees on the asphalt in a rollerblading accident
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform spontaneous tone poemz by two kids making a random cartoon show out of their bedroom.
mircea_popescu: (actually the correct quote is "Foca:De ce? Mo:De tot, debarcader, de verde, ce-i iarba, de maine incepand, de treci codrii de arama, de departe, vezi aproape, destoinic, deranjat la ficat." but anyway)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tone poemz ?
BingoBoingo: I was under the impression survival didn't require resurection after dying on the cross
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what did you think survival was ?
mircea_popescu: "de ce ?" (why ?) "de tot (forever). debarcader (drydock). de verde ce-i iarba (for grass is green). de treci codrii de arama (if you pass the bronze forrest (literary reference)). deranjat la ficat. (upset liver)."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> heck, idish died but hebrew fucking survived! fancy that. << It didn't survive. They found a corpse and built around it.
mircea_popescu: i don't know the greek situation well enough to quote chapter and verse past the general impression, but as to romanian i can sign you a warrant. robotzi is strictly sufficient proof, for decades, perhaps a century.
chetty: greeks wont last long, neither will Romania since they are in eu
mircea_popescu: heck, idish died but hebrew fucking survived! fancy that.
mircea_popescu: the chinese are doing fine, the russians are doing fine, even the fucktarded greeks or romanians are doing fine.
mircea_popescu: the once great french nation is going the way of all other failed experiments - austro-hungarian, united-statesian, whatever.
mircea_popescu: not that rapidly.
chetty: nation as a thing is rapidly turning into history
mircea_popescu: languages spoken by proud elites of actual nations do greatr. whether the pride is justified or not, and irrespective of what it does to the country otherwise.
mircea_popescu: languages go to shit for two reasons. the main one is, elite being humble. the secondary one is, no nation.
mircea_popescu: that may seem like the driver of language shittyfication but it is not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not as strong a tradition there - yet - of 'everybody gets to write'
mircea_popescu: the criteria is, whether the remaining 5% are entusiastically sucking the cock or not.
mircea_popescu: that's not the criteria.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform russian is 95% derp by weight too
mircea_popescu: actual best timne is never.
asciilifeform: thing is, once big enough to have prisoners, big enough to be 95% derp by weight
BingoBoingo: Well the best time to start building 500 years of prison culture in Esparanto is Today. Next best time tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: wake me up when you can go through an entire conversation in huyesperanto
mircea_popescu: wake me up when there's a 500 year tradition of prison culture in esperanto.
mircea_popescu: "considering how sparkling he was in english, reading the flat clumps of russian slag he puts out was quite the disappointment" ☟︎
asciilifeform: everybody laughs at the esperantists for a century, but this is kinda why they do it
mircea_popescu: now THAT's a way to embarass oneself...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sadly my russian's not nearly good enough to actually write in it
mircea_popescu: (tbh, i think i'm buying a lot of time with my willingness to engage the frivolous, but maybe i'm just reading ideology into reality)
mircea_popescu: if that's it ima move to fucking french next.
BingoBoingo: Well you are creating a dataset. Probably bought yourself some time with the language switch.
mircea_popescu: obviously this is a poorly researched field, for lack of substance to study. but particularly interesting to me for the obv reasons
mircea_popescu: <punkman> Rao's markov output. << i wonder if this is the necessary fate of all long running "idea" blogs on the internets.
mircea_popescu: jurov no! RUNNING THE COMPILER! :D
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo " The severity of the flaw though is such that when triggered it can edit any file on the affected machine including files." wtf is that mean
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd expect by now most of the "no go" zones openly advertise "see a cop ? kill a cop" policies.
mircea_popescu: everyone just thinks "oh, porn".
mircea_popescu: they don't get enough credit for this.
asciilifeform: 'The teenage mechanical engineering student, who set up the killer machine as part of college class project, was charged with two counts of assault, interfering with a police officer and failure to obey an officer's signal, after refusing to turn himself in on an outstanding warrant and attacking the officers in question "repeatedly".'
mircea_popescu: Malwarebytes only noticed the flaw being actively exploited because a particular piece of adware had edited the sudoers file on a testing environment << lmao.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It really only appears to have been spotted in use because some braindead adware used it on sudoers
mircea_popescu: da fuck, why are they so slow ?
mircea_popescu: Malwarebytes reports (archived) that a vulnerability in Apple's latest version of OS X which was reported to exist last month on Stefan Esser's blog (archived) is now appearing on malware in the wild.
asciilifeform: ~not for the stunt itself~
assbot: KLYEMAX T-Shirt Fundraiser ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDSuOd )
BingoBoingo: For the archive https://archive.is/EbbYR
assbot: US teen behind gun-wielding drone arrested (Wired UK) ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDSnlD )
assbot: KLYEMAX T-Shirt Fundraiser ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDSaiu )
BingoBoingo: In other news look which forum/dice derp is apparently no frozen to death in Canada https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1142879
BingoBoingo: Was a bit slow earlier it seemed. Just now reaching the inaccessible phase
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell belxjander if you created your gribble account after january 2015 you don't get an automatic assbot account.
gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "tel" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tel belxjander if you created your gribble account after january 2015 you don't get an automatic assbot account.
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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski heh the editor's getting belted.
BingoBoingo: Well we are coming up on the one year anniversary of Ferguson going up in flames.
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 16:57:30; ascii_field: ^ somebody buy this man a small airplane.
shinohai: fight the power
BingoBoingo: ^ Police grabbed him, and as they were arresting him, Labriado yelled several times that "This is for the black people!"
punkman: every time ^
assbot: Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1223743 <<< is that the local strip joint you like? :P ☝︎
cazalla: either this coming weekend or next