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mircea_popescu: imo
the entire menagerie, orlov, yarvin, whoi have you are simply doing
this by hand
ascii_field: iirc already proposed in
the mircea_popescu article re: reddit spam
mircea_popescu: which is why i propose
to do
the job with a computer. it's plowing,
there's no reason
to pay for it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the one
twist is, as far as i can
tell, most of
these 'plowing flies' disinfo agents are... unpaid
mircea_popescu: but derived from it, a decent pseudo-AI project would be
to make a long list of propositions, sort
them in a
thousand or so lists (ie blogs) and "publish" "articles".
mircea_popescu: anyway. makes for great
tumblr stars, goes splendid for an ama, can prolly retire
to doing voice-overs for "did you know" factoid
tv/nature show.
ascii_field: see also
the maths profs shredding unsolicited fermat 'proofs' unread
mircea_popescu: because yes, if science were "open
to all comers" in
this sense, it'd just get ddos'd into
the shit by S's.
mircea_popescu: at
the very margin,
this discussion reduces
to
the discussion of al schwartz' lack of access
to measuring processes, if you recall it.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
this argument is both
too complex
to be readily "intuited" by
the children and also its results are deeply inconvenient
to
their wants and expectations (mostly of playing
the spy and generalsly speaking "mattering" in
their own head), and so i don't expect
the S process
to go away. it's prolly going
to be productive enough
to become a mode of "culture" on
the interwebs.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field like
the whole swathe of "bitcoin experts", and also like "cryptography experts" of
the ilk of some nobody in particular running "socklpuppet.org"
mircea_popescu: specifically because if one of
these is not open
to challenge, he is ipso definition an S. and anons are ipso definitio not open
to challenges
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
the 'phuctor debunked' german
mircea_popescu: the entire list S exists so
that "credible" S's can appear so
that selected Ls can be fucked over.
mircea_popescu: in particular no
trust or crediblity may attach
to
that record, for
the simple reason
that
THAT IS HIS FUCKING JOB.
mircea_popescu: in
this model,
the fact
that Sy displays any score on
the basis of his past emitted Q is no proof of anything.
mircea_popescu: 3. create a set S of
twobitidiots Sk, who put forth statements Q about various P, so
that
the actual
T(Q(Px)) is normally distributed over
the list S.
mircea_popescu: 2.
take a list L of actors Lj , who decide (D) on which P
to rely, and are scored by function S(Lx), according
to
the impact of
their reliance on false P (which is uncomputable at all points before running S)
mircea_popescu: 1.
take a complex situation C about which propositions may be formed Pi which are decidably correct or false
through a
T(Px) function.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field he is starting in
the wrong place and
therefore may never succeed.
assbot: How
to make money on
the Internet while pretending you know what you're
talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1InoNBI )
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: looks
to me like he's
trying
to unearth names/faces
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don;t know who
this guy is and don't care what he [thinks he] may have
to say on
the
topic.
ascii_field: the question of 'what prng
to use' has never differed from
the question of what kind of animal's shit
to smear in wounds
mircea_popescu: and ftr,
the nist ec crapolade was ALWAYS regarded as suspiciouys at best "by people in
the business"
punkman: "If I call NSA “Clyde Frog” long enough, eventually other people will
too. Someone has
to start
the meme! "
ascii_field: 'The U.S. Government has
these special requirements
that you wouldn’t understand. Since
they’re a government,
they needn’t explain
themselves, and we’re not going
to explain either.'
ascii_field: all
the
turdation nodez may as well be one.
ascii_field: the whole notion of
ten
thousand people hanging off
the
teat of ~one~ node is braindamaged
mircea_popescu: irrespective of what "venture capital" it has wasted
to date.
mircea_popescu: "A blockchain explorer has ONE JOB:
to show its users valid blocks and
transactions. Blockchain.info does not do
this. It's worse
than worthless; it's deceptive."
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 16:34:27; mod6: asciilifeform:
thanks for your Mempool Jettison submission
jurov: now i'm curious what alf
thinks of via
mircea_popescu: same cloud
the brits store
the islanders
to create
that .io in
the firsat place.
mircea_popescu: do
that, mgith as well "store your private keys with keybase.io indacloud"
ascii_field: possibly mircea_popescu was retching at
the use of intel 'aes accelerator' instruction
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 17:04:24; decimation: yeah but you were complaining
that openssl was inseperable because of
the assembly optimization
decimation: nevermind
the fips shit,
they ship a pure c implementatin for cross-platform stuff
decimation: yeah but you were complaining
that openssl was inseperable because of
the assembly optimization
☟︎ ascii_field brainfarted,
thought 'boost' for some reason
decimation: remember how
they have
that 'we can load object code' functionality?
decimation: ascii_field: did you know
that openssl has a pure c implementation?
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 16:03:01; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
to which i answer << and
to wich is answer, if memory serves you were brought by a woman!
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 16:34:27; mod6: asciilifeform:
thanks for your Mempool Jettison submission
mod6: asciilifeform:
thanks for your Mempool Jettison submission
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol actually you should see hanbot
these days, running containers and whatnot. you lot have ruined her.
jurov: and
that woman sure knew how
to deallocate after, i spose
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
to which i answer << and
to wich is answer, if memory serves you were brought by a woman!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> knowing
this, how
to
talk
to 'under 30' ? << i have an easy enough
time, prequals : nude, nice
tits, better ass, on knees.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform long known,
that machine. it consists of a belt and, as mo says, "totu-i din incheietura, ma, degeaba
tot..."
mircea_popescu: "i know hoiw
to make sitcom successful in big way (like seinfeld) so please send me some pics of you" ?
chetty: hahahaha
the old dont
trust anyone over 30 has morphed into don't
talk
to anyone under 50
mircea_popescu: i made
this point, vaguely, when we were discussing our own survival, in
the form of "lordship lists" etc. but it stands - if you have a systematic closure you're in a bubble.
mircea_popescu: spartan may well speak with his sword, but
this does not promise an easy
translation.
mircea_popescu: but it also illustrates just how strained
the melted cheese is
mircea_popescu: and if you wish you can say
the same re programmers, and i'll buy it
mircea_popescu: some,
the brighter ones, are sort-of
trying,
twitter, what have you. maybe it works, who knows.
mircea_popescu: ~I~ am not in a bubble, because i actually
take untold hours each quarter
to
talk here.
chetty: funny, I recall life before I lived on
the computer, and it wasn't
that long ago.
chetty: I wonder if being on
the internet so much only makes you guys now see
the 'west' as reddit and
there just might be actual civilization out
there if you get off
the computers.
mircea_popescu: for
them reddit IS
the west, much like for yours
truly, outlet store catalogues was