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mircea_popescu: i was etotheipi!
mircea_popescu: a thanks ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller for next week's btc price i think
mircea_popescu: so people know how much btc that guess has behind it
mircea_popescu: you can also publish the result of the (281032790 +61731894) sum
mircea_popescu: which whiole not precise, will be a MUCH better guess than any other guess someone makes.
mircea_popescu: out comes a number.
mircea_popescu: pick something, like t 7d and that's it.
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: you just take the entire vwap list and calc the average for everything there.
mircea_popescu: no Namworld you mix all.
mircea_popescu: why not ?!
mircea_popescu: but mix p and c
mircea_popescu: well, don't mix t and n
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: this has been there for > 6 months
mircea_popescu: allthetime:D
mircea_popescu: Namworld a sort of "btc value implied by option contracts"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's in the faq dood. http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, inasmuch as it's the statjson of that account.
mircea_popescu: final value = (x * 281032790 + y * 61731894) / (281032790 +61731894)
mircea_popescu: in the case of 310 breakeven is x, in the case of 220 breakeven is y
mircea_popescu: now, working on the 7d averages
mircea_popescu: "O.BTCUSD.C220T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "20577298","min": "20577298","max": "20577298","vsh": "3","vsa": "61731894","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "19660880","min": "18744462","max": "20577298","vsh": "6","vsa": "117965280","cnt": "2"}}
mircea_popescu: "O.BTCUSD.C310T": {"1d": {"avg": "","min": "","max": "","vsh": "","vsa": "","cnt": ""}, "7d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}, "30d": {"avg": "28103279","min": "28103279","max": "28103279","vsh": "10","vsa": "281032790","cnt": "1"}}
mircea_popescu: Namworld i give you an example.
mircea_popescu: i imagine you would get a bunch of people going there daily just to check that
mircea_popescu: and publish the final result.
mircea_popescu: then average this weighted by the volume of that line
mircea_popescu: go into the vwap json, calculate the implicit breakeven of each option line
mircea_popescu: something like this :
mircea_popescu: hey listen, why don't you make a single value ?
mircea_popescu: Namworld o interesting!
mircea_popescu: why/into what/why/etc
mircea_popescu: and absent actual experiments (which did NOT occur) the agreement is by definition agreement of idiots.
mircea_popescu: agreement doth not reality make.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i think not
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's not how reality works i'm affraid.
mircea_popescu: consequently, the headcount of "known and respected" is dismal.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller but you do bring an interesting point. in spite of 1mn words being written a week into this channel, there's an incredible dearth of people doing useful stuff, such as, keeping a blog with good quality research.
mircea_popescu: not such a big deal.
mircea_popescu: for that matter the owner himself can come out and make monthly statements like everyone else.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller dooglus can, if he feels like it.
mircea_popescu: you wish to propose something exists, you'll have to do a lot better than that.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller that's neither here nor there.
mircea_popescu: Ukto surely.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter, off of Bush's wmd's estimates.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, we might as well steal the numbers off of RIAA/MPAA's piracy estimates
mircea_popescu: absent a statement from the owner itself, i want to see the estimate of someone i know and respect.
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: some clueless noob calling his farting "a study" is not going to wash in this conversation.
mircea_popescu: dude.
mircea_popescu: link ?
mircea_popescu: im too lazy to dig up the data, but most of 2012 they ran in the red.
mircea_popescu: yeah. 20-25 btc iirc.
mircea_popescu: Ukto nono, not sr, mtgox
mircea_popescu: Ukto you seen the sort of expenditure they do ?
mircea_popescu: you're working on maybe 2011 data. or 2010.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller bs.
mircea_popescu: they did monthly reporting too for a few months but then gave up
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 they'd be around there, possibly, but haven't had a report out in like 18 months i think
mircea_popescu: fydel well then it may have to wait a little.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller how do you know ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think it would be too hard, just get the parser and run it
mircea_popescu: fydel not unless you write it yourself.
mircea_popescu: nobody else comes even remotely close.
mircea_popescu: no, sdice made like 60-70k, mpoe made like 20k or so, there's a reason these are the top bitcoin corps.
mircea_popescu: something like that.
mircea_popescu: i think bugpowder has a copy too, i don't recall where it is on github
mircea_popescu: they just parse all the sdice addresses periodically.
mircea_popescu: Ukto it's not site data, someone wrote a chain traverser
mircea_popescu: fydel it comes from dooglus, if you click the link above it you'll see
mircea_popescu: misread that
mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: how's xdiff related to mpbor ?
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: ;;tickler
mircea_popescu: advice, shit like that.
mircea_popescu: they end up exchanging stories about you
mircea_popescu: maybe she ends up with a new girlfriend.
mircea_popescu: or so i read somewhere.
mircea_popescu: they like guys the wrong ways all teh time
mircea_popescu: girls are weird like that
mircea_popescu: it's never too late for a girl to like you lol
mircea_popescu: maybe the girl likes you
mircea_popescu: gimme a hundred ty
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants a 6th of a dollar ?
mircea_popescu: the largest coin here is half a leu which is a 6th of a dollar.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: i got tired of having to buy new pants cause my pockets were broken
mircea_popescu: i haven't accepted coins since at least 1999
mircea_popescu: nobody wants coins anymore.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool
mircea_popescu: ahaha isn't this shot great ? http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136167510323.jpg
mircea_popescu: omg hax
mircea_popescu: dub kinda my point now isnt it.
mircea_popescu: people with more experience being = to absolutely anyone stupid enough to try.
mircea_popescu: i like this quote.
mircea_popescu: "I admire the ambition and for this stage of his career he's obviously cleared the bar, but it's also good for him to learn that in the real world security isn't graded on a curve, and people with more time and experience than him have failed to secure Rails apps."
mircea_popescu: anyway. this bitcoininv kid is a pretty good source of funny.