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mircea_popescu: is it likely ? no. is it a risk people would run ? hell no.
mircea_popescu: you can lose your license as a stock broker for instance.
mircea_popescu: for many people being involved in these things is professionally iffy
mircea_popescu: Ukto the problem is people work in bitcoin because they want to be anon.
mircea_popescu: Ukto i use brokers. i happen to think it's the correct way to do it.
mircea_popescu: but all this is not here nor there, and certainly has no point in our discussion.
mircea_popescu: just as he's welcome to appologise to other people for involving them in the other many messes he's created since his presence in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: he is welcome to appologise to me at any time for being an idiot and involving himself in this mess,
mircea_popescu: this state of affairs does NOT give some confused individual license to come in here and ask loaded questions implying i did something wrong.
mircea_popescu: now, all these may be or may not be true, tho i lean towards thinking at least one probably is.
mircea_popescu: c. gigavps is simply lieing (if nothing else for the simple interest that a 5 to 10% claim rate isn't something he'd like to admit)
mircea_popescu: a. nefario waited to see what's nto claimed, released lists including himself as beneficiary.
mircea_popescu: it would not surprise me if any of the three were the case :
mircea_popescu: by now it's been about 3-4 months, and all this communication happened over email in plain text.
mircea_popescu: 3. some more lists are issued. these are right, they say.
mircea_popescu: 2. some lists of shareholders are issued. these are wrong.
mircea_popescu: 1. very dubious character noteworthy mostly for being detained at the border takes exchange down, which nets him a scammer tag.
mircea_popescu: i didn't have an account to claim and i trust the op to not have claimed gigavps.
mircea_popescu: hm, how accurate is blockchain.info when calcing the fees ?
mircea_popescu: maybe things are a lot more fragile than the bull run past week suggests
mircea_popescu: maybe we'd best focus on how many people got separated from their residual btc because they didn't want to cough up for whatever apositlle bs
mircea_popescu: i don't own a mircea_popescu account on icbit.se either, since we're talking
mircea_popescu: the catastrophic failure mode is for each issuer to get a gpg-encypted list of the holder's fingerprints. much like rg got on the delisting of s.bvps
mircea_popescu: but even if that's not the case : the trade history is public,
mircea_popescu: Ukto in principle there'd be at the very least a decoded db dump
mircea_popescu: that said, there's no doubt in my mind the proper qtys were actually beingheld for me.
mircea_popescu: that said, i did not hold it directly, i never had a GLBSE acct.
mircea_popescu: the time for this sort of putative implication was last year,
mircea_popescu: no. at this point it's an issue between some idiot who thinks he can deflect attention from his misdealings by starting shit with me and the world.
mircea_popescu: but if they start being uppity, they'll get bitchslapped.
mircea_popescu: and in general, scammers may get away with it cause i don't care
mircea_popescu: Ukto at the very minimum trying to get this false theory accepted whereby people actually claimed.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate gigavps -10 Defrauded direct investors of something like 40k BTC. Lied about pretty much everything, changed his contract. Also one of the main pirate ponzi supporters.
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:88727e3706f37e445789b628889e38b864a9257925711655a385f20f
mircea_popescu: you've fucked over your investors, talking about my contracts ?
mircea_popescu: end result ? nefario explains the idiots present how much of a scam mpex is.
mircea_popescu: Sep 16 01:13:36 <nefario> mircea_popescu: would you like me to mention you or mpex?
mircea_popescu: here's a start : nefario makes "conference". nobody goes, but hey.
mircea_popescu: Ukto i can dig up the logs for some accurate info he gave, if you're interested.
mircea_popescu: Ukto nefario, the scammertagged chav from bitcointalk you mean ?
mircea_popescu: so, find something better to do with your time. like, say, a way to pay back.
mircea_popescu: not getting into the details of pushing pirate, pushing amazingrando, pushing all the other scams.
mircea_popescu: gigavps here's the thing : this sort of fake drama x months late won't save you from the fact that you've taken about 40k worth of investor's btc
mircea_popescu: he's running out of air with his various lies, so he's pulling a goat.
mircea_popescu: because it's a loaded question, and a poorly loaded one at that.
mircea_popescu: no , that can only happen on places where people actually have a lot of wealth