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BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> "yes massa", in another age << How many weeks do you
think I can pull off black face for
that affirmative action. I
think I might be able
to do
the six months it
takes for Da Union
to kick in, but...
BingoBoingo: trinque: But for a build your first *nix Upgrading OpenBSd
to -stable seems best documented
ben_vulpes: go in, be humble, pretend
to be magnificently stupid and rule-followy while still somewhat savvy
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Any insight into what
they like. I'm asking for
the cause of bleeding some fiat off of Illinois.
trinque: BingoBoingo: oh right, and in fact I pondered
that
too
BingoBoingo: trinque: Ah bootstrap is
the whole linux alf recommends
trinque: I missed what you're
talking about is all
trinque: but
that's a good example of a decision a n00b doesn't need
to know exists
BingoBoingo: <trinque> yup, so if
the recommendation switches
to lilo, someone will have
to verify
that it works with
that CSM mode << More likely switch
to bootstrap
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Assume your skull was rendered
the consistency of rice pudding with a
tack hammer, what would you immagine looking for in customer service folk?
trinque: yup, so if
the recommendation switches
to lilo, someone will have
to verify
that it works with
that CSM mode
ben_vulpes: iono bb i ask questions i don't answer
them
ben_vulpes: gentle mumblings while i slide
the 14-incher in
trinque: mircea_popescu: mod6:
this leads me
to believe
that
the default for grub has changed
n6: trinque: doing
that now brb.
trinque: BingoBoingo: yeah just didn't want
to diverge him from
the guide again
ben_vulpes: in
the sense
that everything
the shop does is customer service...
ben_vulpes: <trinque> oh yeah? go
to
the portland django girls << you've actually done
this?!
trinque: n6: yup, finish up
the guide
ben_vulpes: does
the character now have a spaceship?
n6: I still have
to flip
the bios
n6: seems
to have worked.
trinque: I
think last
time you put
the whole path?
trinque: just a bad starter on
this one
ben_vulpes: trinque: but do you have a v8 and
the electrical system
to drive
the
thing
trinque: so we at least now rule out
that
the wrong variant of
the package is installed.
ben_vulpes: aha i showed up in
the middle of a gentoo quest i see
trinque: so
that's what mine looks like when adding pc
trinque: he's
the original guy iirc but
the difference between
the distros is not much
trinque: we are
trying
to discover why
trinque: if I add pc
to grub platforms
trinque: and
take note of what changes it wants
to make before saying yes
n6: I
think so let me
try again what was it?
trinque: it's still asking for efi
things
trinque: n6: did you run
that emerge command?
trinque: so put your whole contents of your
terminal after running grub2-install on dpaste.com
n6: I don't have anything in
this folder
trinque: yeah, I was wrong about
the plural
trinque: but
that appears
to pertain
to
the generation of grub's config, not its installation
n6: I
think only edited
the grub_platform file
to
try efi
trinque: because in both cases it'd be because of a flaw, and neither you nor I know of
the particular flaws in your firmware
trinque: but
this decision wont help you in either case
trinque: your grub may have all kinds of knobs
twiddled depending on what you did
to
try efi
n6: Do
they come with backdoors also?
trinque: or one of
those
terminal recording utils
trinque: mircea_popescu: perhaps
this calls for a video.
n6: and I still yet
to get anything work.
trinque: somehow you got it
to double up
the path bizarrely
n6: wait i might have --target in
the wrong place
trinque: how does grub refer
to
the system architecture? how does ....
trinque: one of
the major sources of pain in setting up linux
this way is having different
things which sound almost
the same
trinque: and if
that doesn't work,
try with
the
target flag in
there
too
trinque: n6: remember
the partitioning step?
trinque: what's
the matter with
that? you're going
to set CSM
n6: No,
trying
to work out where I go next, lost my place in
the guide now
trinque: changed a setting in portage
then
told emerge
to re-evaluate
the currenty set list of desired packages (world) according
to
them
trinque: n6: so do you get what we did
there?
n6: so I do
this 32 bits
then edit
the bios?
n6: I changed it back
to "pc" but mircea_popescu said
that was, 32 bits I have 64?
trinque: these vars are confusing, because
they are split, making
them appear
to be separate categories
n6: so
the grub_platform? or you mean another place?
trinque: but first you must figure out where you changed
the system
to support EFI and change it back
trinque: you don't have
to
trash
the whole
thing; merely reboot, set CSM, boot
the livecd, mount, and chroot again
n6: trinque: what will it
take for me
to not have
to make a 4th install here. I read your links still don't understand, last
time I went without
this step it ended poorly.
trinque: the CSM
thing I suggested is a way of setting EFI computers into a compatibility mode
that behaves like BIOS
trinque: in
the EFI case
there's even another partition you must have
trinque: n6:
the guide you followed did not account at all for EFI
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> aegis can't even
track
that many, because "nobody could have foreseen how useless
this shit is" << I honestly have no idea what
the limit is becasue seekrits.
mircea_popescu: aegis can't even
track
that many, because "nobody could have foreseen how useless
this shit is"
mircea_popescu: it can churn out 100k of
the damned
things.
there's no defending against missiles if "missiles" means, six digit moving items
BingoBoingo: South China Seas is roughly equivalent right now
to linking war.o
mircea_popescu: moreover : china has proved its ability
to build 1k powerplants/year
mircea_popescu: no idea why
the aussies are
trying
to go after
the proved-to-fail system (ships) instead of outright copying
the chiense (missile batteries) but hey.
mats: carrier groups are formidable, sure, but DoD is well aware of
their vulnerability
BingoBoingo: South China Sea. It's been reduced
to an init system.
mats: mircea_popescu: and USG is powerless
to project power.
trinque: there's some key when you first boot up
to get into
the settings, enter on mine
trinque: n6: switching
to "CSM" mode in
the efi settings
n6: what bootload will get
this working right now and not lead
to a 4th install
hanbot: ;;later
tell mod6 auto.sh successfully installed v0.5.3.1-RELEASE (boost downloaded automagically
this run). will put
together a recounting of steps and all, and move on
to patching my way
to stator.
trinque: either I
tell
the guy set compatibility mode in
the bios or I say get another boot loader
trinque: mircea_popescu:
this is where it's sorta hard
to mask
the essential complexity if
the
thing without making decisions for people
n6: no i'm going
to stick with
the guide and do grub
trinque: well did you go with lilo? because
that would
then be elilo
trinque: n6:
that var referencing grub
n6: What do I need
to change
to get it work?
n6: only
the first 3
times.
mircea_popescu: hey, you wouldn't be
trying
to build a 64 bit
thing on a 32 bit machine would you ?