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mircea_popescu: no, that's when it's really obvious how empty/pointless/mindless you really are.
mircea_popescu: most dumbasses that win the lottery end up dead / in jail / poor again
mircea_popescu: ya well, that's the thing. takes a lot of brains to be rich and bored in the end.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason they have them now, and that reason ain't the aliens.
mircea_popescu: within a coupla years they'll have worse money problems.
mircea_popescu: there's only so much flan a person can eat, to quote one of the recent billionaires.
mircea_popescu: cause how bored you are depends on what you're doing not on how rich you are.
mircea_popescu: the rum was good, the aguacate nice, the mango fantastic an so on
mircea_popescu: well eventually you have enough of playing poker with aging american expats
mircea_popescu: toffoo i sold everythign and went to costa rica, basically.
mircea_popescu: zefir BitHub i guess there's about 20 years keeping you apart.
mircea_popescu: asicminer has a 10ish being delivered and making another 20-50
mircea_popescu: avalon has about 10-20th being delivered atm and making another what, 20-50
mircea_popescu: the actual asic producer has not yet been born i would guess.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi about one third asicminer, one third avalon, one third old network + others
mircea_popescu: since now all that is being paid for, people get a much better idea of their actual costs.
mircea_popescu: the thing is before a large portion of mining cost was hidden (as "free" expertise)
mircea_popescu: by then probably better units need to be bought. and so...
mircea_popescu: take a while for a 60gh asic to cost 1.x k usd in electricity.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i'd guess electricity will never be the bound. fixed costs amortisation will always be larger from now on
mircea_popescu: Bowjob i think midnightmagic bought some, you can ask him
mircea_popescu: BitHub o, the gumpys. i never cancelled, the other party vanished.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi nope. i pay by costs not by what seller judges "i might make"
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't pay 10k for a computer just because i can make 10k on a computer in 15 days
mircea_popescu: what i do with it is nobody's business, what the heck is this.
mircea_popescu: i would pay 1300 dollars within 60 days for a delivered and guaranteed asic.
mircea_popescu: this is a little more than what asicminer increased. so... he's about in the market atm.
mircea_popescu: Bowjob there were some who did report privately. i knew of a few.
mircea_popescu: and 2. that these are producing each less than about half the network
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's very fortunate and convenient that 1. asics are delivered by two companies with roughly equal output
mircea_popescu: Bowjob ya well, keeping accurate accounting of all the weird communication people pour into the market out of noobishness and whatever other reasons is difficult.
mircea_popescu: asicminer, also ready in january, also 12 th, has slowly been bringing units online to about what, 5-7th now
mircea_popescu: Ukto batch 1 was like 200 units iirc. that's a total 12th or thereabouts.
mircea_popescu: Ukto re avalons, some deliveries have been popping up in the us
mircea_popescu: anyways. just taking the opportunity to compare notes.
mircea_popescu: in fact, afaik none did pursue the matter when confronted
mircea_popescu: and the guy with the emails db claimed that it was mtgox poor practices (course... he's the thief)
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic it's a fact that customers had been reporting passwords being broken into which tux/gox blamed on customers, for weeks prior.
mircea_popescu: well, so they come out to about even as best i can see.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the sticky issues in my mind is whether the hacked account at that time was mtgox selftrading on customer credit, and whether the email leak at that time is something they failed to prevent