ThickAsThieves: it doesnt

ThickAsThieves: and whether or why

ThickAsThieves: started with whether paypal would use bitcoin somehow, or make their own coin

ThickAsThieves: its about nothing at this point

ThickAsThieves: or the most promoted pool, or the 'coolest' pool

ThickAsThieves: ^

ThickAsThieves: careful, if you arent predicting where the price is going, btc-anal crew gets antsy

ThickAsThieves: i dont do anal

ThickAsThieves: what is a system? what is free? what is is?

ThickAsThieves: guys, getting semantic about everything is worse than a circlejerk

ThickAsThieves: come in you anal?

ThickAsThieves: not comparable

ThickAsThieves: the conversation did stem from how an entity like Paypal would never touch bitcoin because of these factors

ThickAsThieves: will take some big mistakes along the way

ThickAsThieves: fiends*

ThickAsThieves: its half noobs and half chart firends

ThickAsThieves: turns out the bitcoin-anal crew actually are a little anal

ThickAsThieves: or bitcoin-anal

ThickAsThieves: this room has been kinda dead lately

ThickAsThieves: got too semantic

ThickAsThieves: i'll stop

ThickAsThieves: anywho

ThickAsThieves: and mjr disagreed

ThickAsThieves: mainly i was saying that devs have ability to ruin bitcoin

ThickAsThieves: but the conversation did move to that

ThickAsThieves: not centrally controlled

ThickAsThieves: i can find holes in any example that comes to mindf

ThickAsThieves: hmm

ThickAsThieves: i suppose

ThickAsThieves: it can be one but not act like one

ThickAsThieves: because there are a handful of people deciding its fate

ThickAsThieves: the ability for a party to manipulate it enought to affect all users

ThickAsThieves: i see it as

ThickAsThieves: it is not decentralized

ThickAsThieves: if people still follow software upgrades

ThickAsThieves: it needs to have an exchange built into it somehow

ThickAsThieves: if you want bitcoin to be decentralized

ThickAsThieves: anyway

ThickAsThieves: and the pools ate it up

ThickAsThieves: who did the devs ask about releasing .8?

ThickAsThieves: ...

ThickAsThieves: sounds like a great format for paypal to trust

ThickAsThieves: not break them

ThickAsThieves: control only requires the ability to manipulate the controls

ThickAsThieves: they "saved bitcoin"

ThickAsThieves: how is it not a biggie?

ThickAsThieves: or influence

ThickAsThieves: and whomever trusts their latest version

ThickAsThieves: yes

ThickAsThieves: they didnt have to change the software either

ThickAsThieves: they barely need to ask each other

ThickAsThieves: devs dont need to ask

ThickAsThieves: you want it to mean total control

ThickAsThieves: no

ThickAsThieves: i had no say

ThickAsThieves: you had no say

ThickAsThieves: devs and mining pools did it

ThickAsThieves: everyone?

ThickAsThieves: so who caused AND fixed the fork

ThickAsThieves: really?

ThickAsThieves: cmon

ThickAsThieves: but needed to be under control to actually get off the ground

ThickAsThieves: bitcoin WANTS to be decentralized

ThickAsThieves: dont jump to extremes

ThickAsThieves: lol

ThickAsThieves: you can tell yourself that

ThickAsThieves: and gox

ThickAsThieves: teh devs and miners run it

ThickAsThieves: thats not true at all

ThickAsThieves: (dont forget i started my comments with, paypal won't do shit)

ThickAsThieves: they make palcoins to have the features of bitcoin, without the risks of how bitcoin is run

ThickAsThieves: before bitcoin

ThickAsThieves: this is why paypal would consider an altcoin

ThickAsThieves: it wont bite

ThickAsThieves: its just a conversation

ThickAsThieves: sorry

ThickAsThieves: Paypal isnt gonna trust their money with Luke-Jr

ThickAsThieves: not exactly

ThickAsThieves: they could just legitimize bitcoin

ThickAsThieves: well they dont even NEED to do it as an alt

ThickAsThieves: not just about value comparisons

ThickAsThieves: its a branding and positioning conversation

ThickAsThieves: but joe sixpack might

ThickAsThieves: *We* dont need any of this

ThickAsThieves: they are already making inroads by releasing paypal credit cvards

ThickAsThieves: paypal could take that over

ThickAsThieves: yknow how people are trying bitcoin credit cards?

ThickAsThieves: you need expand your perspective

ThickAsThieves: saving money is not a value?

ThickAsThieves: because you'd pay less fees

ThickAsThieves: paypal could undermine the credit card industry

ThickAsThieves: would be in the fees

ThickAsThieves: the advantage

ThickAsThieves: Google

ThickAsThieves: there's like what, one agile big business?

ThickAsThieves: they are too big

ThickAsThieves: paypal won't do anything

ThickAsThieves: they wont let you change shit

ThickAsThieves: shoulda used godaddy

ThickAsThieves: i question whether either is agile enough to do anything at all though