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mircea_popescu: who and why would be testing on .8 only ?!
mircea_popescu: Namworld the "on .8" is a meaningless constraint.
mircea_popescu: unauthoritatively my it says berkley seems to choke in this case over about 10k records
mircea_popescu: 967 or some shit
mircea_popescu: he might be the only pro in the bunch, too.
mircea_popescu: smickles gotta give props to gavin, he's one of the few that are actually contrite enough.
mircea_popescu: still, more testing WOULD have eventually found it.
mircea_popescu: obviously not the amount of testing they were willing to do in between chat session and harassinfg the userbase found it
mircea_popescu: any statement that claims "no amout of testing" is a lie by its nature
mircea_popescu: Namworld would you stop ?
mircea_popescu: smickles heh.
mircea_popescu: in a sense this backhandedly proves how strong the idea is
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ the idea is strong, the implementation horrible
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: Anduck you know about the tradebook ?
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: "It's about as bad as everywhere else on the planet, I guess, with the single exception of Romania," Asia Pacific Network Information Centre's chief scientist, Geoff Huston, said in an interview with ZDNet Australia.
mircea_popescu: In Australia, IPv6 adoption is almost non-existent, reports Josh Taylor.
mircea_popescu: no srsly
mircea_popescu: $mpexlag
mircea_popescu: 10k, not so massive.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: be that as it may
mircea_popescu: what, this is still disputed ?
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: ie, pirate's confidence scam.
mircea_popescu: yes, for the purpose of covering a side attack
mircea_popescu: completely unrelated topic, gpumax
mircea_popescu: i don't think so. gpumax dissapeared with pirate, as the sane people were saying back in february 2012.
mircea_popescu: is the main strategic purpose of having a devteam in the first place.
mircea_popescu: keeping money ideologically neutral, implementing the old pecunia non olet
mircea_popescu: the same applies ideologically too. the network won't get attacked for as long as it manages to not stupidly offend.
mircea_popescu: just leave it stand as it is. the theoretical response to a 51% attack is that the attacker would make more by mining.
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: or "neither are payment systems, but gaming servers"
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that's fine, but you pervert the choices when you add riders such as "one is really vanishingly small"
mircea_popescu: sure, irrelevant ventures aren't part of the discussion, if bitcoin stays alpacca we're wasting our time with these concerns/
mircea_popescu: that;s brancing the discussion off the germane path tho
mircea_popescu: pigeons if we shouldn't, there should not be call for doing it.
mircea_popescu: to focus on the uncool ones.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic not so. you will be surprised to find attackers routinely forego hitting higher payoff cooler targets
mircea_popescu: live a little.
mircea_popescu: same thing pigeons. as long as you're making that call your ass is too tight.
mircea_popescu: which chain is getting attacked ?
mircea_popescu: suppose there is one attacker such as you've modeled him.
mircea_popescu: suppose buttcoin has some devs that think all usecases are equally valid, and dorkcoin has some devs who believe using the coin for gambling is spam.
mircea_popescu: i guess it doesn't convey, let me try another way.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: looser in the ass ? it means being used with being fucked in that orrifice.
mircea_popescu: if the devs were a little looser in the ass, would the sort of econ savvy attackers stay that side or join this side ?
mircea_popescu: here's a bomb for you midnightmagic :
mircea_popescu: and you must never presume political acumen on the part of anyone.
mircea_popescu: but selecting the coin to attack is not a technical problem.
mircea_popescu: technical yes.
mircea_popescu: or even... why.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic no. because attacker wouldn't know which to attack.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot more to know than coding in thsi world.
mircea_popescu: to be perfectly candid, many people involved in bitcoin are good honest and well meaning individuals, who know about things. usually those things are coding.
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: more drama, more market cap.
mircea_popescu: so ?
mircea_popescu: end of story. money itself is a centralising factor, and as such the slightest flicker amplifies
mircea_popescu: eventually the fork resolves economically simply because mining costs money.
mircea_popescu: if you sell b and buy a the price of all will go up and the price of b down.
mircea_popescu: if you had 10 bitcoins today prefork, you will have 10 a 10b and 10 c bitcoins after the fork.
mircea_popescu: in short : suppose chain forks into 3 different chains today, a b and c
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo have you read the girl's explanation of why multiforks resolve and aren't a problem economically ?
mircea_popescu: not such a huge notion this, is it ?
mircea_popescu: if it can't be specified that's a dealbreaker
mircea_popescu: before it's been specified.
mircea_popescu: look, like it or not, for this reason or for some other reason, bitcoin is at a point where you can't reasonably pour more moneuy into it
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic so ?
mircea_popescu: if it's good it will prevail. if it sucks it will just crack and something else will come out of it
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic wrong step on satoshi's part. let it be broken, rebuild. why protect it ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo does it make much of a difference ?
mircea_popescu: and on and on.
mircea_popescu: and which usecases are acceptable.
mircea_popescu: if you recall, this all started with people knowing which transactions are good.
mircea_popescu: i am aware.
mircea_popescu: i guess they don't read english any better than they read their own code.
mircea_popescu: i said the moment devs try to act like priests and leverage the obscurity of their bad code into political theosophy... they're screwed.
mircea_popescu: actually, i said it months ago.
mircea_popescu: not really. but i am saying that the current stuff has to go.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic im not leading anything, but i'm not standing for nonsensical crap either.
mircea_popescu: the way things play out is popemassacre
mircea_popescu: and it left behind a coven of idiots.
mircea_popescu: problem is the god is gone
mircea_popescu: WHY ARENT the bitcoin police doing anything about these DDOS attacks?
mircea_popescu: and they hate mpex shares!
mircea_popescu: I think this means that bitcoin is in jeopardy.
mircea_popescu: allow me to quote :
mircea_popescu: people who use bitcoin have not a fucking clue.
mircea_popescu: we are discussing money.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i wouldbn't bet on "people" mattering
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo so five years ain't that bad.
mircea_popescu: i am starting to see that.
mircea_popescu: anybody here actually interested in this btw ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1614847#msg1614847 <<
mircea_popescu: we just blew somalia's current week budget.