mircea_popescu: personally i think the solution is fixing, but

mircea_popescu: because exchanges concentrate liquidity and people chase liquidity

mircea_popescu: mod6 it would be good to have many exchanges, but there's problems with getting that to work in p[ractice

mircea_popescu: what are those ?

mircea_popescu: i imagine a number of people are.

mircea_popescu: just trying to get smarter over here :p

mircea_popescu: lol kk

mircea_popescu: ya but i mean, why ?

mircea_popescu: this particularly is illustrative.

mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/HzcprPZ.png

mircea_popescu: mod6 bring me up to speed, what exactly is the objection ? it is widely deployed and consequently well debugged by now

mircea_popescu: for people into sdice graphs : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1614936#msg1614936

mircea_popescu: there's material here to scathe.

mircea_popescu: the proof of something awful's general cluelessness/irrelevance is the low level mock articles they're pushing out.

mircea_popescu: pigeons i fear it'll take me a little to digest this one

mircea_popescu: this is possibly the worst case of "hi i am calling to report a bug" bungled tech support ever.

mircea_popescu: devs say berkeley is broken. it is fine. they forgot to configure it.

mircea_popescu: so here's the lol of today :

mircea_popescu: oh i see yeah

mircea_popescu: well... let's just hope gavin sends him the correct lists then

mircea_popescu: .8*. in march.

mircea_popescu: so he couldn't do refunds all through february because the devs borked transition to .9

mircea_popescu: lol totally offended okay.

mircea_popescu: you got a scammer tag ?!

mircea_popescu: fucking idiots.

mircea_popescu: "o, it was a bug in berkely db"

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152027.msg1616671#msg1616671

mircea_popescu: burnside ^

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves sorry ?

mircea_popescu: such as including 10k 160 byte txs

mircea_popescu: until someone figures out how to trigger the berkley bug with a smaller block

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla should be fine.

mircea_popescu: the way mpex works you get the trade engine lag printed rioght on each stat

mircea_popescu: smickles i think it's a fine measure as it is really.

mircea_popescu: once i get the rest online, can you measure the lag for the entire $proxies list ?

mircea_popescu: smickles actually the expansion on that is

mircea_popescu: mpex could trade on beenz if i wanted to, it's completely btc agnostic.

mircea_popescu: benkay no, my own. btc don't enter into it

mircea_popescu: (this has to be sustained at that level for an hour or so for things to start feeling it)

mircea_popescu: i've seen > 100 on testnet with the future config

mircea_popescu: benkay i've seen > 10 orders per second irl

mircea_popescu: you can't measure the trade engine from outside

mircea_popescu: it takes .11 seconds for an order to go from bot to remote proxy -> to local proxy and back

mircea_popescu: no that's not correct.

mircea_popescu: it takes .11 seconds for an order to go from bot to remote proxy -> to local proxy -> to trade engine and back

mircea_popescu: benkay the bot just measures the proxy response

mircea_popescu: the lag to talk to mpex, through a remote and a local proxy

mircea_popescu: o boy will i be having fun with this.

mircea_popescu: win.

mircea_popescu: $mpexlag

mircea_popescu: ;;goxlag

mircea_popescu: good point

mircea_popescu: be that as it may.

mircea_popescu: courtesy of idiotteam doublewhammy-ing them

mircea_popescu: benkay the top pool is pretty much bankrupt now, is it ?

mircea_popescu: that were illustrated by this but aren't limited to lage blocks

mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i wonder what OTHER exploits are there for berkley

mircea_popescu: but it still costs > 0

mircea_popescu: it may be reduced rto almost no cost, maybe

mircea_popescu: knowing in advance there will have to be a hard fork is a weakness of the system.

mircea_popescu: even if we don't know that doesn't make the issue ok.

mircea_popescu: we'll find out if we're unfortunate enough.

mircea_popescu: how would i know ?

mircea_popescu: that's not how this works, "o, what bad stuff could happen?"

mircea_popescu: Namworld you're proceeding on the wrong path.

mircea_popescu: just the puppy eyed idiots don't quite get what happened so raw raw we love devteam

mircea_popescu: it really is a catastrophe, strategically

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes, it does.

mircea_popescu: yeah.

mircea_popescu: this seems to be the contemporary brain disease, people reading stuff they don't understand here and there, mashing it into a sort of compound

mircea_popescu: some of the funniest shit i read all day.

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152246.msg1615740#msg1615740

mircea_popescu: should be like twentysomething i would guess

mircea_popescu: when they get older.

mircea_popescu: silver easybake oven ?

mircea_popescu: and created the world's first

mircea_popescu: actually... what if usagi and eskimo bob joined forces

mircea_popescu: imsaguy i think he's doing something with silver atm

mircea_popescu: at least ideally.

mircea_popescu: Namworld certainly. this way misunderstandings are found early.

mircea_popescu: MJR_ it has moar.

mircea_popescu: kik

mircea_popescu: imsaguy should i grep log for imsaguy ? :D

mircea_popescu: Namworld almost everyone else doesn't have much to say.

mircea_popescu: of course i do.

mircea_popescu: which is a great way to become a laughingstock, sure, but also a great way to find obscure bugs.

mircea_popescu: i enjoy arguing with him mostly because he seems to go about things in a totally different way than anyone else

mircea_popescu: Namworld does it happen often ?

mircea_popescu: MJR_ not accept. just mine.

mircea_popescu: booties.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: Namworld no! rabble! rabble!

mircea_popescu: <Namworld> No amount of testing would have found the issue.

mircea_popescu: yes well, you went about it in a broken way.

mircea_popescu: the issue is with berkley db, which was on the way out

mircea_popescu: Namworld a, the issue isn't with .8

mircea_popescu: jborkl_ i've always been slow to upgrade, specifically for lack of faith.

mircea_popescu: nobody is saying "shouldhave been tested more by itself in a vacuum"

mircea_popescu: well yes. that is correct, it should have been,

mircea_popescu: jborkl_ for great lulz.