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mircea_popescu: i very much doubt
the man was motivated by greed, or at all comprehensible in
the
terms of
the bourgeoisie.
mircea_popescu: but he definbitely excised a lot of revenge over
the people
that pointedly reminded him of his opwn parents.
mircea_popescu: talleyrand
took a lot of money from
the various german princes, yes. bribes ? maybe.
to do what with
them ? not like he had
to buy any woman in paris anyway.
trinque: it seems rather healthy
to have someone create problems for you which are out of your control
phf: there's difference when it comes
to execution
though, both since no
trained helplessness and actual resources
mircea_popescu: for
the record, we have ample documentation as
to hyow
the children of
the aristocracy were kept back while
that stayed vigurous.
trinque: I dunno if
that's an aristocratic kid if
that's
the full picture
phf: i don't
think an aristocratic kid has
to scream
to get what
they want, a baseline of ability is always present and
taken for granted, in
that sense a reddit sjw is not much different from
the wealthy version of
the same
trinque: right, your "causes vs purposes" is a helpful
tool
to sort
the shit, it seems
to me
mircea_popescu: the problem is
that
the shit you
think you wish for can't be. it's
the problem of
the shit, not of
the genie.
trinque: so it seems poverty does
this; on
that route, life itself chaps
the back of
the horse
trinque: perhaps
the degenerate kids scream and get whatever
they want,
then come of age, and are incapable of wanting anything sensible
trinque: seems a matter of whether something beats
the mind into accepting
that
the state of reality is entirely outside
the control of a person, aside from a margin of error
mircea_popescu: on
the plus side, i'm here, you can
try various sticks.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field recall
the "fake islands" medieval maps included for
the purpose ?
mircea_popescu: as
the observation goes, "for every incredibly sexy woman out
there,
there's one guy sick and
tired of looking at her asshole."
mircea_popescu: as i observed
to a friend recently - if everything worked i wouldn't even care
to have a name.
ascii_field: mats: gotta love
the sniveling usg lie in
the headline even
mircea_popescu: for all i care
they, whosoever "they" is , can fix everything
tomorrow and i'll be fine with it.
mircea_popescu: in any case i would point out
that "remaining in power" is not only
the
terminology of "the enemy" (which, here, means "of
the idiots"), but actually meaningless. remain in power ? do we
toil
towards a bitcoind
that can be used
to what, "Remain in power" ? do i object
to
the amorphousness of words when i point out what definitions really are and why definitions must exist, do i object
to
the amorphousness of pseud-thou
phf: horses and servants are habitual behaviors, and i've seen it exist entirely in disconnect with
the life outlook ("hypocrisy" often came
to mind)
mircea_popescu: and
the proposition
that russia was at any point "christian" anyway... yes,
they use
the word. it doth not mean anything akin
to its english false friend. at all.
mircea_popescu: if you don't learn
to be a man with a horse and a servant, you're beyond help.
mircea_popescu: eh get out.
they all went
to
the military,
they all had horses, and servants.
phf: there's also
that whole
tension, in christian nations, between "what christ
taught" and what church needed in order
to gain resources and prop up
the power vertical. how should an aristocracy straddle
that line between "kill yourself and your children for us and you'll go
to haven" and "sell all you have, give alms
to
the poor". it seems like a lot of
the aristocratic kids in
the 19th century were sold
the second version (with
the full support a
mircea_popescu: the film itself is mst3k level bad, but coralie revel does natasha
to perfection.
mircea_popescu: (speaking of which -
there's a recent, very very bad french movie which nevertheless offers perhaps
the best image of
that girl.
mircea_popescu: natasha
the spy, natasha
the heavy drinker, natasha
the young corpse.
mircea_popescu: russian women had all
the subterfugial value of pelicans. at least - until
the soviets invented natasha.
mircea_popescu: and
the brits had
the impossible
to undervalue advantage of women.
they're fucking ugly, so
they have
to work hard. and
they did -
the empire only survived with
them.
mircea_popescu: phf
there's a reason "hypocrisy" appears again and again in criticism of imperial achievement.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> expected america
to look like 1940s nyc <<
the people who worshipped nicky mantle or w/e are long dead you know.
ascii_field: if england (and europe) had a meta-europe somewhere more west,
that 'we
too can become like!!111!!! if we kill our king' -
then
they
too would have decembrist revolts
trinque: seems
the aristocracy can't allow
their children
to develop foolish ideas such as being able
to change reality arbitrarily, which any kid left
to his own
thoughts growing up in wealth will come
to believe
phf: thinking about "degenerate children",
the disconnect seems
to be between what is advertised as a virtue in order
to strengthen rule and what is genuinely required in order
to remain in power. somehow eton managed
to produce generations of british elite, while petergoth lyceum first class of
twenty ended in
the decembrist revolt (and
that was 100 years before soviet revolution)
Adlai glances at it, still
there, full of sand
Adlai: trinque: please elaborate about
this narrative
trinque: but doesn't really serve
the american narrative in
teh same way baseball seems
to have
mats: nobody else plays
these games
trinque: I don't
think baseball has been
the american "thing" for a generator or more
Adlai: ascii_field: baseball isn't
the american sport, it's
the american story. or something
ascii_field: gernika: blkcut for
the former. but otherwise, yes.
ascii_field: no,
they only purge
the folks who won't play ball
mircea_popescu: all
that keeps
the whole body from prison is no one looking.
gernika: mod6 didn't realize 0.5.3 didn't have -reindex, so attempted a reindex with old .dat files (backed up blkindex.dat and last blk*.dat) - so I
think I'm just syncing from scratch at
this point. Not sure how useful my log would be at
this point.
ascii_field: and
that virtually every major american uni has dozens of faculty, heavily overlapping with
the set of most serious money-bringers, who are criminally impeachable
ascii_field: my current understanding is
that
this is sop
ascii_field: 'Naturally all
the documentation is keep secret, but a quick Google search would reveal
that one can't simultaneously work at place x, and give lectures at place y, while x and y are hours of
travel away. But again
the people who control
the grant money only check
the paperwork
they are provided. Is
there a bogus employment contract in my name? I don't know but I have reasons
to believe so.'
mircea_popescu: imagine
the panic
this raises
through
the 65% of phd advisors reading
there
mircea_popescu: "impostor syndrome" is how sanity is known among
the playful bunch, busy play-pretending a life and daydreaming an existence.
the silkworms awake./
ascii_field: (never, oddly enough, baseball. which i grew up
thinking of as ~the~ american sport)
ascii_field: but not just any game. always
that one, for some reason.
mircea_popescu: it is a good idea
to describe anything overgrown, neotenic idiots do as "a game". because yes,
they're playing.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: americanism. it is customary
to describe anything political in
terms used in
the american football, e.g., 'playbook', 'gameplan', 'huddle'
mircea_popescu: "Should you suddenly find yourself with enough success
to, say, help significantly decrease poverty and famine in some 3rd world country, would you be prepared and ready with a game-plan"
mod6: <+gernika> mod6: bastard blocks for roughly 10 hours now. Perhaps I corrupted my db? << hmm. not sure? are you getting errors as opposed
to just bastard blocks? maybe post last 250 lines of your debug.log and we can have a look.
ascii_field: this was kinda
the idea
though. 'now ~everyone~ can be a degenerate aristocrat!'
mircea_popescu: give asciilifeform a proper windows license while at it, so he stops having
to
toil with
the obscure bullshit he is now.
mircea_popescu: go ahead, "make
things better" for fefeleaga by what ? giving her a breadmaking machine ? a pegassus ? what are you going
to GIVE her ? a job at
the local airport ? a newly built apartment ?
mircea_popescu: people like
to lie and claim
their failures are some sort of virtues. but
they aren't. and
the fact
that
those kids felt unequal
to
the responsibility of who
they were supposed
to be in
this world... well...
mircea_popescu: and it is why i pointed out orlov's failure in
the elephant story.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
this is at all controversial.
the degenerate children of a lost aristocracy are
the primary fuel of
the imbecillity of revolution.
phf: shalamov makes a convincing argument in a story about natalia klimova, one of
the ladies
that
tried
to assassinate stolypin,
that
the way for soviet regime was paved by people who read stories like fefeleaga and decided
that something needs
to be done. it was already 20 years of
terrorism by mostly educated aristocracy children, "from vegetarianism and love
thy neighbor
to
throwing bombs"
jurov: "Disable support for loading LC_CTYPE locales other
than UTF-8."
mircea_popescu: (and no, it can't be fixed by simply moving one's hands and MAKING him
that. it has
to come from
the public, as an unavoidable necessity. and no,
the public can't be "educated" etc)
mircea_popescu: (d'artagnan's origin is not coincidental, and
the fact superman's not from
the ozarks does not reflect
too well on either
the profundity or
the perspectives of
that culture)
phf: huh, it's right
there in
the dictionary
too
mircea_popescu: into which you ran, like i have, by
trying
to
translate a certain russian word ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is interesting, and related,
to inquire into
the etymology of english word 'churl'
mircea_popescu: im so distraught
that word lost its principal meaning. which was - people being "people", in
the reddit sense of
the
term.
phf: that's not
the right word
mircea_popescu: it's back
to
the "what purpose does
the sun serve for us, children ?"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field speaking of which - weirdness like "colectivisation" etc didn't
touch most of high
transylvania. simply because
teh people didn't do it. because wut. even some horses survived.
mircea_popescu: the main difference between
the paris horde and
the bucharest horde being, of course,
that
the former were productive. or one should say, sufficiently productive.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, very old peoples do survive in france as well - same places
they do in
the east. like
the normans, say, or
the gascons. much hay was made by
the plains populatrons about
this also, at
the
time
they were still
trying
to understand
themselves seriously - say 3 centuries ago)
mircea_popescu: things are not what
they may be perceived
to be, but what is left after washed in
the acid of movement and phenomena.
mircea_popescu: if your leg bends
to match
the
tunic it's quite clear you're in fact wearing a
tunic, not merely a similar looking apron.
mircea_popescu: much like you know someone's using a hammer for it being a hammer
through
the sign
that
the flat part goes
to put
the nail in and
the fork
to pull
the nail back out.
mircea_popescu has seen people wearing
to work
the legionnaire
tunics, and knows for a fact
that
they were wearing
the same item by
the unerring sign,
that
they used
the same points of
them.
jurov: more like, 12k (all
the way from last ice age)
jurov: only
two millenia?
mircea_popescu: but
the difference is deeply, fundamnetally palpable. i did recently "curs de langue et de civilisation europeene", by screening le gendarme et les gendarmettes (funes) and la liceale - al mare con amica de papa.