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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla seriously tho, people need about 3 average incomes now to maintain a 1950s lifestyle. in the 80s needed two.
mircea_popescu: presume you don't understand what's being said because of the other person once, get shown better, stop making the assumption. at least for a wittle while.
mircea_popescu: well that's true. but he already got slapped once with the entire statistics thing. you'd expect people a little quicker on their feet.
mircea_popescu: why do you presume to guess my emotional state ? does it help something ?
mircea_popescu: hm, if you won't think the question too much proof of my many and varied shortcomings,
mircea_popescu: people have never been this smart and yet men your age have never been this childish.
mircea_popescu: so nothing really, it's a little amusing, you'll grow out of it.
mircea_popescu: i guess for some views that constitutes proof of progress.
mircea_popescu: for that matter the raw raw raw we are the best the sun has ever seen is possibly the oldest rabble rousing talk ever. older than Athens for sure.
mircea_popescu: where they mean anything they're false, where they're not false they're meaningless.
mircea_popescu: or perhaps you're not quite up to the reading, seeing how it's both ancient and banal an example.
mircea_popescu: perhaps human notions of morality and ethics aren't quite as developed as all that.
mircea_popescu: so : if situation A is that 100 people die yearly in forest fires and situation B is that 3 people die yearly in forest fires but one person is kidnapped and tortured to death as a religious practice which causes the reduction in forest fires casualities, is a movement from A to B progress in your view ?
mircea_popescu: but let us better understand this notion of progress you use, because after all it's so messed up by commoners chewing on it.
mircea_popescu: (yes, surmise but not conclude. which is specifically why i used that word and not the other. i'm trying to help you judge here.)
mircea_popescu: it's because i presupposed in your usage of "progress" that you do not look at percents but absolutes.
mircea_popescu: listen, the reason i phrased that way is not because of a misunderstanding of statistics, as you seem inclined to conveniently surmise.
mircea_popescu: you are applying it with no consideration given to the conditions of validity it contains
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the theorem you cite refers to something very speciffic.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you lack the cognitive trappings that'd allow you to evaluate that meta-point, so let's allow it to go silent.
mircea_popescu: take something inconvenient, like people who died of cancer before age 18.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic only if you measure these like the us govt measures unemployment.
mircea_popescu: also, you perhaps hold aumann in too high a regard. he's a minor bayesian, which is another way to say nonsense.
mircea_popescu: fewer people die today in good health than did in 1913
mircea_popescu: now let's take your progress apart. fewer people can read in the us today than did in 1913.
mircea_popescu: the only way that collapse can be hidden is by avoiding reference to objective standard.
mircea_popescu: standards of living have been collapsing ever since welfarism (which is a good example of the nice/cooperation confusion)
mircea_popescu: you equivocate plenty in there. progress does not exist. humans do live comfortably because they cooperate, but this does have no relation to being nice.
mircea_popescu: “Altruism does not mean mere kindness or generosity, but the sacrifice of the best among men to the worst, the sacrifice of virtues to flaws, of ability to incompetence, of progress to stagnation--and the subordinating of all life and of all values to the claims of anyone's suffering.”
mircea_popescu: “The welfare state reduces a citizen to a client, subordinates them to a bureaucrat, and subjects them to rules that are anti- work, anti-family, anti-opportunity and anti-property... Humans forced to suffer under such anti-human rules naturally develop pathologies. The evening news is the natural result of the welfare state.”
mircea_popescu: smickles join the club, my sysadmin ppls have been wrangling with something exactly liek that for 3 days now.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla : make an alias for josh-zerlan.com on bitbet's server
mircea_popescu: parseval software firewalls weren't even being touched, routers got it.
mircea_popescu: Namworld it's a best effort business, we get it. perhaps the only improvement is to have an internal messaging system somehow, so if you hear ddos early warning it can be used somehow
mircea_popescu: jurov listen, pretty much nobody offers off the shelf ddos proof hosting
mircea_popescu: anyway. it doesn't look like there's much more anyone could have done practically.
mircea_popescu: well... he promised to be surprised, he was surprised. no scam.
mircea_popescu: Mar 07 03:48:14 <Namworld> i would be surprised, jurov
mircea_popescu: Mar 07 03:46:04 <jurov> Namworld if this causes to overstep my bitvps bandwidth, or causes bitvps to be included in ddos outright
mircea_popescu: so practically a vps host can't do much more than "sorry, we can't host you, you're too big".
mircea_popescu: on the other hand there's never going to be an economical solution to offer vps servers and yet scale it up in case of a serious ddos
mircea_popescu: if i may, everyone has a point here. in fairness we didnt really know how hot things will get early on. in retrospect it can be said that "well duh, obviously if it can take out mpex's main it will wipe a vps somewhere". but at the time i was busy and i guess nobody else realised it.