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williamdunne: I got kicked, spent a while picking myself up. Wasn'
t reading the logs very often, only Trilema and Qntra
nubbins`: asciilifeform but the difference is that your coin wasn'
t sent to bettors.
danielpbarron: even if some came or went to lizzard hitler's address it wouldn'
t prove a damn because this kind of analysis can only be held against ~fiat~ institutions
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i'm no blockchain analysis expert but that doesn'
t look like bitbet's money to me
PeterL: and it is what, 10 lines if you don'
t count nubbins` ? that does not seem very lengthy
☟︎ nubbins`: i guess the bet money didn'
t go out.
nubbins`: PeterL: not only that, but the information contained in the post you linked just doesn'
t appear in the F.MPIF jan financials
PeterL: I don'
t see one for february
nubbins`: "being a lord is not an empty honor, but the honor of recognition, by your peers, for a useful purpose. If you aren'
t doing anything you broadly speaking can'
t be one, and if you are one it is upon you to show up in court and help settle matters (and in the process help the other lords understand you and predict your future moves)"
nubbins`: because he can just give alf a pile of useless shares that he apparently can'
t even afford to cash out
mircea_popescu: iirc cali didn'
t uphold noncompetes for professional folk.
nubbins`: asciilifeform i don'
t own any MPEx stocks, nor am i shorting any MPEx stocks
nubbins`: talking about bitcoin doesn'
t make you a part of bitcoin, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don'
t see how it's not fully torn, but hey, maybe just me.
mircea_popescu: but now i have the ~option~ to do this. back then, i didn'
t.
mircea_popescu: because apparently i don'
t know how the world works, and haven'
t properly groked the memo about how "reality is enacted by convention" or somesuch.
nubbins`: asciilifeform he doesn'
t. yet still you provide.
mircea_popescu: as time goes on, the bar raises, and many/most/whatever can'
t cope.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu also won'
t entertain serious allegations of fraud, to nobody's surprise
mircea_popescu: which is fine - but i also don'
t and won'
t entertain any of it.
nubbins`: ooo, mp implies that he doesn'
t respect jurov's intelligence
mircea_popescu: jurov plox to quote rather than imagine. this imagination hasn'
t served you well in the past, won'
t start to at any point.
PeterL: <nubbins`> if i send the light company $100 cash in the mail because i think my employer is behind on their bills, but it turns out they weren'
t and everything was just fine, i wouldn'
t expect my employer to give my $100 back. << you would expect the power company to refund you
nubbins`: PeterL bitbet has quite a poor reputation, if you haven'
t noticed
nubbins`: danielpbarron why are you curious about something that didn'
t happen?
nubbins`: if i send the light company $100 cash in the mail because i think my employer is behind on their bills, but it turns out they weren'
t and everything was just fine, i wouldn'
t expect my employer to give my $100 back.
danielpbarron: i don'
t agree with the stupid mistake hypothesis either
nubbins`: PeterL the thing about stupid mistakes is that if you realize they've happened and you DON'
T CORRECT THEM, they turn into fraud.
nubbins`: ben_vulpes if you pay the pizza guy with your own money, EVEN IF YOU'RE AT WORK, you don'
t get to automatically bill work for the pizza.
danielpbarron: PeterL, i've never run a business, i don'
t know if those things are needed or what
jurov: ben_vulpes: mpex withdrawals don'
t come into picture, my withdrawals would, if i sent them zerofee
danielpbarron: well isn'
t that the expectation? the whole point of the broker is to hold the funds, and place the orders on my behalf..
danielpbarron: jurov, i don'
t see the relation. shareholders of bbet never had an expection to control what happens with bbet funds
nubbins`: he doesn'
t wanna list a scam fund any more than kako wants to own one
trinque: I haven'
t negrated anyone for being loud!
nubbins`: don'
t feel like it. what's with all the imperatives? nobody to boss around in the trailer park?
nubbins`: for emphasis: Pros don'
t give a shit, it's the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do.
nubbins`: Professional does not imply any restriction of form.ii You are free to be as offensive, annoying, disparaging, crass, crude or indecorous you feel the need or inclination to be. This includes any and all comments that in other, non-professional venues may be regarded as racist, sexist, chauvinist, fascist or whatever else. Pros don'
t give a shit, it's the clueless twits and assorted pretenders that do.
nubbins`: asciilifeform got a link? i don'
t think he's said anything to me lately
danielpbarron: there hasn'
t been nearly enough volume on S.BBET to claim any sort of price falling, except for about a year ago when 10 or so bitcoin worth brought it from the 40s to the teens
nubbins`: sure you don'
t wanna explain again?
nubbins`: danielpbarron the logic doesn'
t follow, please explain showing your workings?
trinque: as for my perspective, the tools either work or they don'
t. the WoT, deedbot, forum, so on, sorts itself or doesn'
t.
nubbins`: he's a small, sad man, nothing more than a mark karpeles with better book-learning. lucked his way into a windfall by recognizing bitcoin as an opportunity early on; just hasn'
t fallen on the sword yet.
nubbins`: here's the straight dope. we all knew from the start that mp doesn'
t care when he's wrong, he just bulldozes. countless examples exist, i don'
t care to find them for you. kako agrees that the expense is fraudulent, jurov agrees, many others agree; the only ones who don'
t agree are you, who seem quite willing to let kako take the hit in order to maintain peace, and hanbot, who obviously doesn'
t count as an opinion
PeterL: in michigan we don'
t even register as a party
danielpbarron: aha, here in Connecticut if you're registered republican you can'
t vote in democratic primary and vice versa
danielpbarron: if mich is like conn, he can'
t vote vermin supreme if he was otherwise going to vote rand
nubbins`: asciilifeform what mircea_popescu considers it doesn'
t necessarily reflect what it actually is
PeterL: today is presidential primary here in mich, I havn'
t decided how to vote, half tempted to write in Rand Paul as a protest against all the idiots still running
nubbins`: PeterL stringent policing isn'
t a thing here anymore
PeterL: and you don'
t see how what you do affects everybody else here?
nubbins`: so she used to do forum pr, but now doesn'
t assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 16:56:31; nubbins`: then i realized that she doesn'
t do anything, and thought it odd she's on the lordship list
nubbins`: then i realized that she doesn'
t do anything, and thought it odd she's on the lordship list
☟︎ assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for hanbot with note: nobody. doesn'
t belong here.
mircea_popescu: well, it's been time for years now, but the chinese ain'
t going away.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mircea_popescu found a chip fab between his sofa cushions yet ? << i don'
t have enough money to outright do this. if i had, i'd be outright doing this.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the republic is currently short about twenty to fifty billion in filthy fiats and a few thousand to thirty million engineer hours, depending who's counting the hours. not depending on who's hiring the engineers tho, you ~can'
t hire for this.
mircea_popescu: "son, don'
t you want to marry this woman ?" "notrly." "well, you should!" "really ?" "yeah. except she's ugly." "well then ?" "but the other women are even uglier." "dad, you're really doing a bum job here."
shinohai: I hope you didn'
t experience the same catastrophe I did thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: (couldn'
t possibly own stock, coins, can barely work a paste buffer much less gpg-tron, owns no real computers etc etc)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> what out-of-wot advice is this? and why send the wire twice instead of calling your drinking buddies who /use the same bank/ to ask if /their/ wires are in the habit of simply not showing up and what they've done in the past in the circumstances <<< you don'
t mean my drinking buddies who a) would take ANY explanation just as long as it doesn'
t mean gotta get off ass and b) would not be willing, broadly spea
☟︎ ben_vulpes: [02:12:30] [mircea_popescu] so then, upon advice, i sent it separately. and it went through within half hour. AFTER WHICH somehow the txn was magically found, and… this time it wasn'
t dropped from mempool ? what changed since last week, mempool is even bigger now. << most underexamined line in this whole saga to date.
BingoBoingo hasn'
t sharpened pencils with sharpener in a long time.
mircea_popescu: ;;google velvet fog best of in autoplay format that can'
t be turned off. ever.
mircea_popescu thought the 80s fucking sucked. then again, back then hadn'
t seen the 90s. 00s. 10s. etc.
shinohai: Well at least you won'
t have to worry about her running around on you!
shinohai: I was actually surprised the roof of the truck didn'
t collapse under the weight.
trinque: nubbins`: been about a year and a month, and I don'
t have any plans to shut it down
danielpbarron: i can actually did yours for you if you don'
t feel like figuring it out (it's very simple)
nubbins`: danielpbarron in fairness nanotube probably doesn'
t like it either
danielpbarron: i don'
t like you abusing the bots to get around an ignore
nubbins`: hey, ya don'
t like the argument, it's your choice to tune it out. doesn'
t make it invalid
nubbins`: sign the statements, don'
t sign em, whatever
nubbins`: asasshole in a suit who can'
t count
nubbins`: where it says you can'
t just donate 17 btc to the public and expect bitbet to pick up the tab?