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mircea_popescu: there's a graph in the article on trilema showing it against the actual price
mircea_popescu: it predicted some events in the past and failed to rpedict others
mircea_popescu: however, i wouldn't fall in love with it. we don't know yet if it makes any sense or just is a pretty number
mircea_popescu: it's a pretty sophisticated measure, if you think about it
mircea_popescu: so they aren;t really putting their btc where their mouth is very much
mircea_popescu: of the ~5k btc on the line, only 8.5% belongs to the people expecting 57.59
mircea_popescu: also consider 2nd line : 4`851.15 (8.5 / 91.5)
mircea_popescu: bow yes.
mircea_popescu: it allows for easy separation between bulls and bears by taking advantage of the the nature of options
mircea_popescu: on average, they expect 39.31 next week. the call side expects 57.59, the put side 37.32
mircea_popescu: it sums up what the option traders think the price will be next week
mircea_popescu: Guest7560 basically it's a sentiment indicator
mircea_popescu: and all the spaces, no need
mircea_popescu: smickles, could $vwap be cleaned up a little so that the 1 more msg thing is not printed ? perhaps take out all the u too
mircea_popescu: bah it does
mircea_popescu: does it do that in pm too ?
mircea_popescu: way cleanner imo. mpexbot more adequate for programming i'd guess
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is mostly used as a store of value anyway
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: you know in spite of the spikes avg volume is like 20-30k
mircea_popescu: hoping people get used to the approach
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv that's why i regularly use the 30day price figures for mkt cap, and the 24 hour averages for btc prices on option pricing and so forth.
mircea_popescu: night Namworld
mircea_popescu: Bowjob that's what it's called
mircea_popescu: the solution is quite simple : don't get politically involved. stick to writing code.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic yes.
mircea_popescu: prolly made some profit
mircea_popescu: Bowjob nah it was sold. he had bought it earlier for w/e
mircea_popescu: or else they're wrong.
mircea_popescu: heh calls are covering. either they're right and a top is in
mircea_popescu: im not saying it's impossible to move the actual implementation as it is into shape by incremental improvements ftr.
mircea_popescu: in terms of, fuck it, it's not supposed to work long term, it's stupposed to show how this could work
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic wwithout having talked to the man, it is my impression he basically wrote a spec and then hacked together a mcguyver implementation he didn't think much of
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: that ain't massive nam.
mircea_popescu: for some values of "massive" under 100 btc or so.
mircea_popescu: lol that forum.
mircea_popescu: "Hello guys, I am a psychologist in training and I would like to offer my knowledge, insight and experience with understanding women."
mircea_popescu: i been sayin' this for months
mircea_popescu: the entire "merchants accept btc" stuff is nonsense, and in general retail is pretty much irrelevanty
mircea_popescu: Namworld this is very true.
mircea_popescu: Anduck the fork
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
mircea_popescu: it was a tough sell, the events of the 12th were the kiss of death.
mircea_popescu: it may have failed on this attempt
mircea_popescu: the run-up was pretty much driven by everyone's wish on both sides of the divide to merge btc and some finance.
mircea_popescu: i was just about to say hm, the calls covering, are we in for a drop ?
mircea_popescu: seriously tho, who is handling gift certs these days ?
mircea_popescu: still, prolly time to start hardening.
mircea_popescu: that's good.
mircea_popescu: http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://trilema.com/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/
mircea_popescu: entire datacenter got blown. sound familiar ?
mircea_popescu: coinabul was hosted in the same place
mircea_popescu: bflwebsite went down
mircea_popescu: ok so here's a story :
mircea_popescu: Namworld take a loan :D
mircea_popescu: i'm not gonna weigh your bottom line down, i can get as many coins as i want for myself, but nice way to spread the love.
mircea_popescu: cool idea hehe.
mircea_popescu: molec / moleccc hey you here ?
mircea_popescu: kinda neat idea actually
mircea_popescu: o like a giveaway yeah
mircea_popescu: Bowjob wjhat ?! he's selling them for 1 ?!
mircea_popescu: but by predictable code accident
mircea_popescu: Namworld the problem here is that since we don't have multiple implementations, the behaviour of clients is centralised not by their will
mircea_popescu: i won't be speaking for some charity in tibet because i don't give a shit. if people actually do this sort of crap then btc will be fucked on the longer term
mircea_popescu: because its from tibet.
mircea_popescu: suppose china comes to avalon or asicminer and says you must not rely the tx of this charity
mircea_popescu: zerokwel moreover this is a serious problem for the future.
mircea_popescu: irc is not too good a medium for this discussion, it'll just get fragmented into nonsense.
mircea_popescu: and prolly comment on it.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic listen, post an article on the topic somewhere. i'll read it
mircea_popescu: obviously the point was undestood even if they're too spineless to admit this, or else we wouldn't have seen the move to the rabble rousing populist forum bs.
mircea_popescu: but yah that's what i was explainingto luke and co back in feb : if they exclude sd txs that doesn't exclude sd from bitcoin, it excludes them from mining.
mircea_popescu: zerokwel in fact sd paid a little over 50% of all fees ever paid.
mircea_popescu: who ever heard of proponents of a system being upset cause it's actually useful for something.
mircea_popescu: Namworld perhaps. i doubt it tho.
mircea_popescu: perhaps of interest to you.
mircea_popescu: Namworld http://trilema.com/2013/the-bitchslapping-of-2013/
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv that is a point.
mircea_popescu: how did you compute the 800k value ?
mircea_popescu: neh /
mircea_popescu: bitcoinstore is iirc online since 2012
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv how you mea ?
mircea_popescu: better get a business first.
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: let alone make judgement calls and give opinions.
mircea_popescu: and then tehy have the cheek to even talk to my girl in the forum,
mircea_popescu: so let's pretend a little longer.
mircea_popescu: is a story of people trying, failing and then going eh what the fuck, we can't admit we've been idiots.
mircea_popescu: tom's basic thing is exactly there. bitcoinica failed the exact same way. everything in the drama timeline
mircea_popescu: most scams in btc play out the same way.
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv you kinda had it.
mircea_popescu: ya they should get it within the widest imaginable industrial standards.
mircea_popescu: as in, go meet the pirate.
mircea_popescu: no, not ship. shit.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi that's what the bet volumes would seem to indicate.
mircea_popescu: ie, there is no more btc available to finance them.