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wilbns: it does seem the dollar is someone in store for a beating, perhaps that is what will stop interest rates from rising or enable more QE to continue
phf: first thing she asked what's up with russians and schwarzenegger
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world << Corn loves raw manure, but wheat demand you first light the manure and then till it into the field
mats: i am still unprepared to flee to .cn
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, gave the english version to my girl to read
BingoBoingo: As the state burns
mats: welp, i like a game of 'catch the falling knife' as well as anybody
asciilifeform: mats: usg, like wheat (the latter as described in mircea_popescu's essay 'when you become wheat') thrives in a half-destroyed world ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Last week I read a lot of "California beat the drought" stories based on more people in Compton working at McDonalds
asciilifeform: there is, iirc, even an english transl somewhere!
asciilifeform: to the engineers, those aren't failures.
asciilifeform: <mats> the rest of the world failing around you is the early warning system << distinguish the natural (drought) from the usg-engineered (just about everything else) failures.
wilbns: ah that's a good quote, so true
asciilifeform: ^ orlov's 'you will not be told when collapse has happened, only when it has happened to ~you~'
wilbns: mats: maybe. there was an interesting quote you just made me think of - "a recession is when your neighbor loses his or her job. a depression is when you lose yours"
asciilifeform: phf: entirely other fella, but familiar theme, aha
BingoBoingo: Welcome to the Terror Dome, er... Terra Foam
assbot: Labyrinth of Reflections - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1flVneU )
phf: asciilifeform: this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_Reflections
mats: the rest of the world failing around you is the early warning system
trinque: asciilifeform | trinque: which is a catgurl or the like. << LOL
wilbns: mats: agreed, that is the challenge - what exactly is happening in the status quo. food shortages, never before seen droughts, threat of a credit bubble collapsing, the middle easten on the verge and russia/china moving further away in their relations w/ europe and the us each new day. what is next.
asciilifeform: http://pelevin.nov.ru << that one
phf: what was that bad russian scifi dood, who did sort of like a hodgepodge of cyberpunk literature
asciilifeform: the book was, iirc, 'love of the three zuckerbrins'
asciilifeform: trinque: which is a catgurl or the like.
wilbns: asciilifeform: thanks for the tip!
trinque: imagine that's your cousin, and now your brain implant means you have to see that all day
mats: i imagine modern civilization will decay too quickly for wilbns universe to materialize
trinque: specifically, seeing your meatwot at all times on some device...
trinque: the only thing I do via social media is barf articles at family in the hopes that they read
trinque: god sounds terrible.
asciilifeform: mats: 'work' also inside the machine.
wilbns: mats: people will be employed to execute roles in cyberspace. telecommuting and working from home is the first step. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (fucking assigned receptacle/inverse, as case may be, but seeing their idiotbook simulacrum at ~all~ times in the goggles)
mats: sure, for people that don't need to work to live
asciilifeform: wilbns: v. pelevin had a hilarious sf yarn where people not only did this, but fucked this way
wilbns: mats: thinking it is going to be three-dimensional, where you interact w/ your social network wearing some sort of oculus rift-themed devise in an alternate reality. people will choose that over this one. and then many will truly become ambivalent to things that are happening in "real" life
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:35:23; phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea)
asciilifeform: still a thing..?
mats: if social networks as they exist nao are still a thing i will eat a bullet
asciilifeform: then again, a back door may be found for it to safely walk through, like google's employment not-iq-really-fuck-you-not-iq tests
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:39:32; mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1241709 << this will be ruthlessly suppresses because it is RACIST ☝︎
wilbns: ...and what other things will be derived from social networks.
wilbns: 25 years ago there was no Facebook and a fledgling Internet - many people were still using a BBS or interacting with one another using AOL, CompuServe or Prodigy. A smartphone did not exist. It will be interesting in another 25 years to see the path of where things will go. I wonder if we were teleported there tomorrow if we would recognize it.
scoopbot_revived: That one with the eons. http://trilema.com/2015/that-one-with-the-eons/
wilbns: ah, the grey area of profiling.
mats: >When an individual applies for a loan, the lender examines the credit ratings of members of the individual’s social network who are connected to the individual through authorized nodes. If the average credit rating of these members is at least a minimum credit score, the lender continues to process the loan application. Otherwise, the loan application is ☟︎
phf: used it to cheat in games heh (i think there were a dozen of variations of that idea) ☟︎
phf: it's probably same year, that i was switched to freebsd, so never actually programmed for dos. i did write a tsr to do a memory dump on a keypress few years later
phf: asciilifeform: i know right. none of us used it before, and really were so cocky we durped till last moment. it's my only and very vivid memory of turbopascal
assbot: That one with the eons. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1K30Y6W )
trinque: I was utterly ignorant of lisp at the time
trinque: because the python was getting in the way of how I wanted to express it in language, of course
trinque: and trashed it all
BingoBoingo: The only piece of "music software" I truly liked was "Noteworthy Composer"
trinque: for example I commonly want to take a lick and move it around a scale some
trinque: I'm starting to lean towards wanting a programming language for this (yes lisp)
asciilifeform: fortunately, this is not difficult. (on your desk, at least.)
asciilifeform: trinque: there are things that could be had today only if you were to recreate the world of yesterday.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell btcdrak you disconnected so actually will have to revoice self when this message is recieved
trinque: well fuck you renoise, I want just the drums and bass in this part
trinque: I've never killed renoise, but anyhow, my actual complaint is that I can't call arbitrary chunks of noise a function and reuse them
asciilifeform: was more or less superior in every way to the linked example.
trinque: ah sure, in that sense
asciilifeform: for one thing, 'fastracker' didn't crack, didn't need window dragging or tab flipping,
asciilifeform: (though it is debatable whether the output was 'music')
trinque: anybody ever use an oldschool tracker for music production?
imsaguy: Its amazing the amount of vitriol that is out there amongst people that probably don't even know the real difference between the two forks.
BingoBoingo: Not bad. Just stuffing cotton towels in social media toilets, taking a shit, and flushing them.
BingoBoingo: WHat's up tripeSlash?
asciilifeform nostalgic from the naivete of the 'encryption' section in 'swag'
asciilifeform to this day considers any programming environment that can't display a full reference to the language on demand, optionally searchable by keyword at current cursor, to be inferior
phf: ha, i remember we opted to use turbopascal for some programming olympiada and made a terrible mess out of it. basically were expect to come in some place, but we couldn't even finish the program
asciilifeform: phf: now, turbopascal 7 for msdos - ~happened~ !
asciilifeform: delphi happened under winblowz and therefore for me never happened.
phf: being able to write pascal in delphi was like the right of passage for moscows programmer boys. i thought i was the shit with my dozen of delphi programmers until good folk at msu cmc unix room gently explained to me that i'm an idiot, told me to install freebsd and gave a copy of "programming in c language" by podbelsky and fomin. probably one the earliest books i've purchased still on my bookshelf
asciilifeform: ^ in case anyone thinks idiocy was invented yesterday
assbot: "Encryption Theory" by KANDA'JALEN EIRSIE ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2Z7Po )
assbot: "TP6-7 example of Eliza" by SWAG SUPPORT TEAM ... ( http://bit.ly/1flRKpr )
assbot: "FLI File player" by SWAG SUPPORT TEAM ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2YMME )
asciilifeform: http://www.retroarchive.org/swag/MISC/0168.PAS.html << try & write this for modern system (NO WWW IDIOCY) in this many lines.
assbot: "RPos in BASM" by EDDY THILLEMAN ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2YgON )
asciilifeform: now why didn't this schmuck make the entries linkable
BingoBoingo still has machines somewhere vulnerable to N.vir
mircea_popescu: im going to end up the english language's foremost hack.
mircea_popescu feels tempted to rewrite that one too.
asciilifeform looks for the copy of 'gold bug' virus that some derp threw into swag and claimed as 'universal decompilator'
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: (nothing at all to do with 'delphi') << this didn't stop me from looking up delphi of the 90's lol
asciilifeform: (nothing at all to do with 'delphi.' mega-classic archive of algo snippets, mainly for borland's turbopascal)
asciilifeform: today i learned that...
BingoBoingo: He was in a physics phd program at one of the St Louis universities before he went to BitPay. At the time he contacted me I think he was still using a slave name.
BingoBoingo: One time Ryan X Charles before he adopted that name approached my IRL name to set up St Louis Bitcoin meetup and I told him I don't want to meet the sort of people that would live in St Louis an share his kind of interest in Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: no reprieve. nic carey used to be a good guy, he's as scummy as any scumbag now. this is his doing, and not my problem.
mircea_popescu: i do not credit this "nice people working for scammers" theory.
assbot: Mining for comedy gold in the r/bitcoin corpus : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1K2WSvm )
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3gmn15/mining_for_comedy_gold_in_the_rbitcoin_corpus/ << the bruce fentonfail is pretty good lol
wilbns: growth rate as being something even more rapid and promising than PayPal total payments volume. It was then that I realized there were instances where people were potentially being mislead that the Blockchain total payments volume was actually Blockchain.info total payments volume.
wilbns: One time I was asked by Peter Smith to find early charts of PayPal total payments volume to compare to Blockchain Total Payments volume. Was told by Peter Smith that him and Nic Cary were in Silicon Valley meeting with former PayPal executives and venture capitalists (this was before they secured their raise), to whom they were comparing early Blockchain