log☇︎
419200+ entries in 0.257s
mircea_popescu: i need this more than i need a bigger blocks hardfork
mircea_popescu: anyway : i am itching to declare extant browsers obsolete and force through a replacement.
phf: https://common-lisp.net/project/closure/ for the curious
trinque: independent of the site author!
trinque: and it would know things you could do to the media!
mircea_popescu: should be able to render webm for fuxxase
trinque: yeah nah, I'm talking burn it all to the ground
phf: trinque: closure is a browser, which spawned a bunch of projects, one of them is closure-html, an html parser
ascii_field believes that hypertext, at least as presently implemented 'in-band', ~is~ wrong
trinque: because hypertext isn't wrong, the browser is
trinque: phf: this is hypertext atop lisp in clim?
phf: trinque: there's "closure"
trinque: sounds like some kinda CLIM thing with a socket
mircea_popescu: ie one that supported none of the crud.
trinque: god have I spent time in this hell
trinque: the DOM is far to intermingled to ever deallocate certain things
ascii_field: who doesn't believe this - get thee to valgrind, and see for yourself.
mircea_popescu: and we're talking kbps sort of leaks.
mircea_popescu: so for my own curiosity (inspired mostly by our bitcoin experiments here) i had it tested. there's no modern browser thatr doesn't leak memory.
ascii_field: (to date i have not been able to source any but huawei which does this)
ascii_field: their usb dongles, at least the ones i tested, can even make/receive voice calls
ascii_field: btw, best gsm modem i presently know of for this application is just about everything made by 'huawei'
phf: version 1 of that was written for razr, because first phone i had with a usb connector
trinque: for example I know of a guy that built some radio doodad that farts out s-expressions
ascii_field: or to dial it
phf: trinque: i parse gsm by hand, because. but there's a handful of linux packages that'll do it for you
ascii_field: trinque: how else is the thing to let your machine know that it got a call, msg, or whatnot
mircea_popescu: i bet you he gets the bulk of it from womenz that don't know enough contemporaneous culture to just send nudies.
trinque: phf: what's this modem? is the sms aspect special, or do I just need to learn those horrible looking codes?
ascii_field: here in the stone age lands, it is generally expected of a 'serious person' to be reachable by voice phone
trinque: and if something doesn't do either of those things, it gets taped into one of them, or abandoned
trinque: voicemail's terrible; I use email and IRC
mircea_popescu: i'm not talking to machine talkers.
mircea_popescu: if someone is dumb enough to talk to a machine they should CONTINUE.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even listens to voicemail. i never have.
mircea_popescu: phf why not download the text ?!
kakobrekla: bbbut you are starting off with text which is best, especially to download on the road
mircea_popescu: here too.
phf: obviously, they get lame'd
ascii_field: they were a loophole in the tracking grid and had to die, yes
ascii_field: incidentally, and not unrelated, payphones of the traditional kind where almost entirely abolished where i live
mircea_popescu: why not make them bitmaps
phf: trinque: i have a gsm modem on home base, that saves sms to text file and generates wave files of left messages. when i travel i just periodically download that stuff, when i get internet connection. you could probably harden it in various ways to minimize your location being traced, as an exercise
ascii_field: granted, not as extensive as once before, in the old days
jurov: they rely on 'net, too, back since desert storm
ascii_field: jurov: bugmen rely on radio too much, in modern times, for proper sov-style jamming
mircea_popescu: this problem is easily resolved : there can not be an "any" node.
jurov: ascii_field: if it can filter internet such, then it can do radio, too
ascii_field: 'a' == every territory presently occupied by the bugmen
mircea_popescu gapes in amazement at the incredibly powerful tool he came up with over dinner conversation.
ascii_field: that there's your 'every.'
ascii_field: fine. when i pull this 'cord', we get a bitcoin node in a place where usg does not wish for there to be honest nodes.
mircea_popescu: so then you say this, and your "Certain" has become an "every"
ascii_field: for every pull of the cord.
ascii_field: is to deploy on every flight ?
mircea_popescu: think is "all". wank is "some". "certain" is iffy and should be resolved to either.
mircea_popescu: actually, i would propose that's the difference between think and wank in the space in question.
mircea_popescu: see, that's the difference. i don't think we ca do a "like to think" if the premise is not an "all" or "every"
ascii_field: one effective answer is 'don't go there' - reasonable
ascii_field: premise is that in certain zimbabwes, net access is dodgy
mircea_popescu loathes to think without premise.
mircea_popescu: so what';s the premise ? i guess i missed it.
ascii_field: as with yesterday's block fattening thread.
ascii_field: nah just doing a mircea_popescuine 'i like to think'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "providing punctual technical solutions for poorly understood future situations".
ascii_field: and therefore not of interest.
ascii_field: punkman: uses derpatroic bitcoind though
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: which this
ascii_field: ^ ANOTHER reason tx ~has~ to be expensive, and blocks - light.
punkman: well US transactions need to leave the continent no?
ascii_field: not to be relied on for the future.
punkman: you can send tx with satphone
ascii_field: and when i can throw a transaction into a wireless parasite mesh
ascii_field: but do wake me up when somebody starts transmitting a therealbitcoin blockchain i can pick up with my rtlsdr !!
ascii_field: trinque: it still lives & dies by the official transmitters
assbot: BitOTTerBot (@BitOTTer) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp3BB4 )
trinque: general notion being that I might do some driving around with the laptop soon, see the states while it's easy, and I'd like to rely on passive tech (beeper, gps, etc) more as an exercise than because of any operational need
mats: danielpbarron: wait what? 'MPEx1' hasn't tweeted since 2013
ascii_field: asks you to use a shitblowz proggy
assbot: RTL-SDR Tutorial: POCSAG Pager Decoding - rtl-sdr.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jp3o0K )
jurov: lizardhitler must be able to page you at any time!!!1
ascii_field: surgeons, i'm told, still carry classic 'beeper.'
ascii_field: signal from the station is very strong, can be received, typically, even in a lift, or an underground station
gribble: POCSAG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POCSAG>; POCSAG - Signal Identification Wiki: <http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/POCSAG>; RTL-SDR Tutorial: POCSAG Pager Decoding - rtl-sdr.com: <http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-pocsag-pager-decoding/>
ascii_field: small box that only receives (somewhere in the 400 MHz band), with character display
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: no, it was (and to a limited extent, still is) an actual product where i live
trinque: surely this, being sane, must be on the way out
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure they still heartbeat
ascii_field: trinque: passive in the sense of not transmitting
trinque: not so much as a peep back to tower?
danielpbarron: most useful feature of my iPhone is mod6's MPEx twitter bot announcing trades in real time to me wherever I go
trinque: ascii_field: now that I'm reading about it, is the passive in one-way pagers actually passive in the sense I care about?
ascii_field: just like around 2007 it became ~sop~ for cars to last 5 yr instead of 15
ascii_field: that scarcely anyone keeps these for longer than 2-3 yrs
danielpbarron: i've been updating all the way
ascii_field: then - straight to dumpster
ascii_field: danielpbarron: wait till the os update is mandatory
ascii_field: trinque: those are still sold
mircea_popescu: but then again gold is a very low bar. almost anything makes more sense to hoard.
ascii_field: unless they have peculiarly short shelf lives