mircea_popescu: very true

mircea_popescu: MJR__ yeah. in some broken environments however (such as, the web) you're desperate fgor air however

mircea_popescu: they have that space, they want to fill it.

mircea_popescu: and by nobody in the us

mircea_popescu: atm btc exchange is done legally in europe by the bitcoin-central ppl

mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv they are seizing an opportunity.

mircea_popescu: a good example of this is disallowing weak passwords

mircea_popescu: the idea is to not squish down as it were

mircea_popescu: and even in that context : a little squishing up is acceptable

mircea_popescu: other than that... good luck and green onions.

mircea_popescu: ie, that the spectrum available includes the zone you as a customer need

mircea_popescu: MJR__ as far as i can see, the job of the provider is to ensure you don't get squished.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla win

mircea_popescu: as demonstrated in snatch

mircea_popescu: that's easy : i just walk in there, say hi and hit them across the head.

mircea_popescu: :)

mircea_popescu: MJR__ i wastalking, with a spectrum analyzer.

mircea_popescu: yes well, tempest stuff is detecting airplanes and industrial facilities.

mircea_popescu: if you demonstrate key stealing off a laptop i'll give you a btc in bounty

mircea_popescu: dude, it's a laptop. you don't need to isolate the power :D

mircea_popescu: as long as you don't connect it to the net ever, what's the worst that can happen ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the case of an old laptop you get off ebay for 200 bux, format and install linux on.

mircea_popescu: it's trivial for you to implement a secure system if it's only got one user

mircea_popescu: when 1000s of ppl are involved security takes a hike

mircea_popescu: well, problem there is the process.

mircea_popescu: its really niot that hard/expensive to do

mircea_popescu: you setup your signing on one machine, connect another to the internet

mircea_popescu: im talking about the users.

mircea_popescu: nono

mircea_popescu: in practice most everyone uses a qr gun from what i understand.

mircea_popescu: Step 4. Your account is now set up, you can use it in full confidence. Yes, this includes the inconvenient step of transferring GPG-encoded strings from a cold machine to a hot machine.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://mpex.co/faq.html#18

mircea_popescu: one way to get in may be to just buy bitcoin, if you don't think it's overvalued atm

mircea_popescu: robonerd i don't think anyone's lookingto give away hardware atm

mircea_popescu: plenty of people are going the cold route.

mircea_popescu: wouldn't be the sole client. you've seen the faq right ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform even if he had, it'd hum just as nicely.

mircea_popescu: otherwise i don't trust them things personally, but ymmv.

mircea_popescu: robonerd perhaps asicminer if it's not overvalued iyo.

mircea_popescu: and if you choose to be...well... nothing wrong with that.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think mpex quite clearly showed you don't have to be.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually there's a lot of macos surprisingly

mircea_popescu: my suits are handweaved by teary eyed slves out of their own hair!

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla house. i got a garden and there's also a 2nd floor

mircea_popescu: but there's no nsakey

mircea_popescu: i get it, makes for a decent novel plot

mircea_popescu: there's no nsakey.

mircea_popescu: it wouldn't hurt btc to be in the same position.

mircea_popescu: point being : to attack the internet today you need to contend with something 1 trn worth of large.

mircea_popescu: if you're trying to grow flies yes it is.

mircea_popescu: depends how yo udefine it.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform steak ?

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 22000 / 3.4 / 72

mircea_popescu: hmm lessee

mircea_popescu: (lei)

mircea_popescu: i've paid 22k for a year.

mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv http://trilema.com/2011/mutatis-mutandis/ there, inside shots

mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv nope

mircea_popescu: and how it sucks to be the emperor and not be able to have a motherfucking glass of water

mircea_popescu: they forbid him drink water. he has this elegia about water somewhere, about how great it is

mircea_popescu: emperor hadrianus had it

mircea_popescu: the condition of the enlarged hearth

mircea_popescu: thing is much like btc, the net doesn't have a fixed purpose.

mircea_popescu: yes well, if you define the purpose of the net as "exchanging research papers" then it's totally hydropizic.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just evidence of size.

mircea_popescu: MJR__ it's not.

mircea_popescu: that would have NEVER existed otherwise.

mircea_popescu: there's like 1 trillion worth of equipment deployed in support of the net atm

mircea_popescu: it worked wonderfully.

mircea_popescu: it did.

mircea_popescu: as the tech matures.

mircea_popescu: anyway, im really looking forward to more peeps with business / financial / legal / whoring / etc experience joining btc

mircea_popescu: ah. myea.

mircea_popescu: ie, not natural

mircea_popescu: coding is a high civilisation adventure, which means quite perverted

mircea_popescu: natural means stupid in this context.

mircea_popescu: then he gets fired.

mircea_popescu: then he explains that it's not his fault

mircea_popescu: he proceeds to just code, never check, never design for fault tolerance, nothing

mircea_popescu: anyway, benkay : new kid wants to impress everyone with his cool skills. is warned about what the failure modes are and what is expected and what to check.

mircea_popescu: that can't work well.

mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv this is a point, they're unwittingly/unintentionally short both asic and btc

mircea_popescu: as you well observe.

mircea_popescu: i've not yet actually fired anyone at mpex. it's not quite large enough to have a hr to do mishiring

mircea_popescu: this discussion re hiring/firing ppl has nothing to do with mpex, it's my larger experience

mircea_popescu: no not at mpex

mircea_popescu: now, finish there ? diff story.

mircea_popescu: just like university. if you wish to enroll you will.

mircea_popescu: in general the way things work in the western world is if you wish to be hired by X you wil be

mircea_popescu: i don't hire them, they just get hired.

mircea_popescu: because we just dion't understand, maan

mircea_popescu: new kid wants to improve X with Y supertechnology we old stuffies don't know abou

mircea_popescu: benkay in general it goes EXACTLY like the bitcoin shit went down.

mircea_popescu: well... kinda what it is.

mircea_popescu: lol k

mircea_popescu: as in buncha hipsters ?

mircea_popescu: hehe

mircea_popescu: that's i think the motivating factor : one clever idea, lots of value in it.

mircea_popescu: this isn't a universal np problem they're approaching but a well defined subset

mircea_popescu: jurov depends if they actually get a breakthrough.