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asciilifeform: and while i have the microphone, will say : i'ma carry on exactly same work after properly proclaimed heretic and excommunicated by mircea_popescu , as prior.
asciilifeform: at any rate i'ma to bed. and if mircea_popescu wants to subscribe a slot (or moar) in bisp, oughta say; and his biznis is appreciated; if not -- other potential subscribers invited to solicit for ben_vulpes's courier service.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i like to see folx finish what they start, eh
asciilifeform: also goddammit why so slow, mircea_popescu , i'm waiting for the 'de-lording' bullet, staying up past bedtime ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes i dunno that submission has anything to do with anything, tbh. the principal issue is that he fucked up, again, in the same way, and is sticking to this nopenopenopenope line.
mircea_popescu: i think it's actually russian.
asciilifeform: lobbes: as for 'submitting', apparently it's trickier than it'd appear, i 'submitted' to the fuhrer for , what, 4yrs, and still thrown out in the end like used napkin
lobbes: Normally I wouldn't say anything (not really my bznz) but I have a vested interest in asciilifeform existing (I learn a lot from the guy and he has done important work, what)
mircea_popescu: well, in all honesty after the bizarro revelations i'm mostly waiting for said discussion, of what you intend to do etc.
mircea_popescu: well anyway. i'm guessing ima read it in the monthlies or w/e.
mircea_popescu: well, can't say i follow teh business logic, but hey.
trinque: I think shinohai snowflaked himself up his own recently ☟︎
ben_vulpes: if i say "all boxes getting racked will have 32 cores" that's a huge minimum buy that i don't know that l2 can really eat many of.
ben_vulpes: i want the next run to have one box with lots of ram and cpu to start selling vps and shared hosting in earnest, and another 2 of smaller boxes that can be rented out entire in the $3-400/mo range.
mircea_popescu: well, that was pretty dumb on their part, i guess, but whatever, experience is apparently difficult to process.
mircea_popescu: i guess, perhaps, the standard for time frittering. but that's well set already, so.
mircea_popescu: i still intend to follow their standards.
mircea_popescu: and i wouldn't trust asciilifeform to write it now, in any case.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have nfi. could take too much power, could whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: and seeing how you're the fellow who asks me how many items do i want to fit in ben_vulpes 's one item slot, i have serious doubts about your cogency anyway.
mircea_popescu: so how many of 1, 2 or 3 do i want to fit in a 1u slot ?
asciilifeform: i will let him speak re exact time.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 17:48 ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice
mircea_popescu: not how i go about it.
asciilifeform: e.g. -10 i hate his face
mod6: I get your meaning though.
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, sure. I have a lot of things going on tho lol.
mod6: mircea_popescu: well, never the less, I'm still very much behind the utility of ffa
mod6: i think we may need some good data collected to come up with a list of arch's that leak
mod6: yeah, no. it's fine. i was happy to build/run. to me this is all very exciting/important stuff. back when alf was doing the karatsuba and other things in the late summer/fall, this type of thing started to be contimplated for innerloop substitute.
asciilifeform: nor he -- i, 'go and...'
asciilifeform: i do not order mod6 , 'go and make such a test', no.
asciilifeform: i'm putting in both variants of mul, selectably.
asciilifeform: i.e. leaking key.
asciilifeform: otoh i could also be observing noise.
asciilifeform: mod6: i will share my current hypothesis : all current intels have MUL leakage ☟︎
mod6: anyway, on the mule, i never did get adacore running properly. this lappy is the only box i got adacore '16 running on thus far.
mod6: i have this mule box that i strap workloads to (core2duo box) -- should be fine as long as CPU isn't saturated, and during this test, the lappy was only like at .7 load or w/e
mod6: sure. i may want to re-run this entire thing anyway... i kinda dumbly ran this on my laptop.
asciilifeform: this prolly calls for a proper test with rdtsc. but i'm saving this for 'dessert'
asciilifeform: mod6: fwiw i have found no consistent diff, to the 6th ( beyond that, the timer is useless ) on opteron
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784178 << this is veeeery interesting and i'd like to know what iron ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hm mod6 did i miss a payment or what happened here ?
mod6: asciilifeform: I did check if that the perf test was still running -- it was this am. I think it should finish sometime today.
shinohai: Pretty good here, gonna do an offline V test in a bit once I get a few more things squared away.
shinohai: Plox feel free to edit as I have not advanced beyond first cup of coffee yet.
shinohai: Sadly, they cannot make any real arguments *against* running fully-validating node. So whatever fud sticks I suppose.
mod6: My node has been caught up for over 15 days, and looking good. I've added it to the Republican Trusted Node List; http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
shinohai: Not that I'm going to waste time asking the schmuck how running full node lets me censor tx's
BingoBoingo: My habitually exposed skin has actually tanned deeper here than most of the locals', but I am preserving my tan lines for the status symbol they are.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, my clothes are the same. Just fit looser. And these are the same bums I have been seeing since December. So far harmless except for the time in January a less frequent one got insistent beyond his station and was corrected by his fellow bums.
BingoBoingo: In other developments This week the residential bums around Montevideo Shopping have started addressing me as "Maestro" rather than "Amigo" when I walk by. The first time was Tuesday, then it happened again twice yesterday with different bums. Will advise how this situation develops.
asciilifeform: !Qlater tell ave1 so i finally tested, exhaustively, and turns out you were completely correct re the inline pragma, gcc ~sometimes~ ( when it wants... ) inlines when it is not given in the .ads . i'ma fix this in ch12, this find deserves own chapter, with re-done timings for errything
asciilifeform: !~later tell ave1 so i finally tested, exhaustively, and turns out you were completely correct re the inline pragma, gcc ~sometimes~ ( when it wants... ) inlines when it is not given in the .ads . i'ma fix this in ch12, this find deserves own chapter, with re-done timings for errything
BingoBoingo: I read your brevity as sufficient editorial to hammer the cognitive dissonance here on the subject. Well done.
shinohai: http://archive.is/G5hdG <<< I wonder if wikileaks will leak the leaks ?
shinohai: Yup, had newer gcc and I was unfamiliar with gcc-config until now. Had only ever used a single instance.
shinohai: Nah, I haven't graduated to musltronics yet unfortunately :/
shinohai: Now I have like 2-3 days of logs to catch up on, been buried in man pages for past 72 hours.
shinohai: I think this is the best gentoo I've put together yet .... lappy boots in < 1 minute now
ben_vulpes: i'll do it, standby one
ben_vulpes: jurov: i'm guessing mod6 is away from his keys
jurov: I'm ready to do it now
mod6: Alright. I can do that a bit later.
mod6: ben_vulpes: I probably can later indeed. I've never used this before, need trinque to help here.
jurov: I know Bingo's 1Ewe... addy but he best confirm he still has the privkey
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783949 << I think if you can somehow get it into my account, then I can have whomever invoice me or what not. ☝︎
jurov: Perhaps i can send to BB's address directly? I don't like mixing up foundations funds with my own deedbot wallet anyway.
mod6: I dunno either :D
jurov: Or I must deposit to my wallet first?
mod6: I'm not sure if I need to setup anything for my deedbot acct.
mod6: trinque: do I need to do anything to get setup for jurov's tx to my deedbot acct? I've never set it up ...
asciilifeform: relatedly i burned much time on graphics-generators but in the end threw all out, ended up writing ch10's physical diagrams in ordinary htm
trinque: I think simple's right.
trinque: there's also the interesting question of what wot ratings look like in a gossipd world. yes, I will still warehouse my repository of wot data, but I'd also be happy to chatter ratings to other nodes.
trinque: I'm clearly leaning towards that they rate keys, yes
asciilifeform: ( i.e. the pov that nick is merely a convenient method of referring to a key . )
trinque: I am now damned to manage every exception
trinque: I think when you start enumerating those kinds of cases, there are many, and it's the sort of systemd hair we're familiar with.
trinque: TomServo: how will folks that rated you under one nick and key know that I (hypothetically) moved your ratings to another nick and key
asciilifeform: i for one intend to retire the modulus i made on kochian prng.
trinque: I pgpdump the db and extract them on my end, seamless transition
trinque: and I'm dim on wanting to make that a "feature"
trinque: TomServo: I have so far made an exception for the fig-leaf expiration field, with the understanding that this exception goes away when P
asciilifeform: TomServo: i still have same modulus as when first tuned in
TomServo: Perhaps I misremember, didnt' asciilifeform renew a key and maintain ratings?
trinque: well, I open that up to the forum. they rated "TomServo" with key K1. TomServo comes along and demonstrates to me that he controls both K1 and K2, and wants to transfer ratings to K2 under $newNick.
TomServo: ben_vulpes: Surprised this has not been done. I'll add to the (geological!) list.
TomServo: I think a new key is neccessary in my case and figured if changing nicks, that'd be the time.
asciilifeform: fwiw i never felt any urge to change nick. it is short enuff and if someone laughs at it it does me no harm. i sign my posts with human name fwiw.
lobbes: So I guess only "breakage" here would be in log only, which wouldn't be a breakage at all to those paying attention
lobbes: For some reason I had the delusion that handle and key were inexorably linked in deedbot. I stand corrected
TomServo: That would be my preference, but if you're telling me there is no benefit in it, I wouldn't bother.
TomServo: ben_vulpes: I'm talking about changing my irc handle, such as yourself.
TomServo: lobbes: Continuity break? As I understood there was a (perhaps annoying to trinque) process for renewing keys.
lobbes: Can always just state realname in logs/blog and point to it when asked. (speaking of which, I realize I never have done this. So, for the logs, my real name is Eric Benevides)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-14#1783926 <<  I'd say this one is more of a personal preference. I guess if you're going to start fresh now would be a good time, but personally I've never seen  "handle=realname" as so important as to warrant breaking wot continuity. ☝︎
asciilifeform: dare i to ask, where'ya moving to, jurov_moving , and from where ?
ben_vulpes: so asciilifeform you see why i'm advertising the slot?
ben_vulpes: i have one 1U slot open in my next courier run to .uy, if anyone wants their machine couriered down speak NOW or i'm going to fill it with a box of my choice ☟︎