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assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 16:50:56; ascii_field: (could easily be wholly fictional, but, in
the immortal words of
tlp: 'if you're reading it, it's for you')
mircea_popescu: i look at
that index and i'm like... hey, nice, simcity 2015.
mats: YHOO: -3.10%,
TSLA: -5.12%, BABA: -3.83%, AMZN: -3.22%, AAPL: -2.05%, BOX: -2.31%, FB: -.98%, SCTY: -4.47%, ZNGA: -2.33%, GOOG: -2.13%
mircea_popescu: you can't have a middle class unless
the poor class is being squished underfoot.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
the only possible definition of "middle class" is, "what's left of
the poor fucks once
the rich fucks are done raping
their daughters and shooting
their sons for sport."
mircea_popescu: we aren't putting ghetto meat first. let
the usg have
that,
they earned it.
mircea_popescu: "I
think we should put users first." << oh, but we are. because poor people ARE NOT bitcoin users. by definition.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 14:26:53; mike_c: so, Jared drives
to
the prostitute, gets busted, and has
to pay
the feds not
to seize
the car he drove
there in?
jurov 's gonna dictionary ping *.bitcoin-assets.com
to see if
there's more :D
mircea_popescu: yes but
traditionally
the way broker works is
that he allocates his
trades. so... you say it happened, you have a block it could have happenbed in,
that's it.
jurov: and say i wanted
to convince coinbr customer
that yes, it happened
jurov: well, i was
troubleshooting coinbr
transaction "2015-08-19T22:31:42+00:00", B 53950, "S.MPOE" @ 68266 but it got put
together with others and
then published in channel
jurov: kakobrekla/mike_c , is
there any public source for mpex
trades (other
than mpex.coinbr.com)
that does not mutilate data?
BingoBoingo: I was kinda iffy about him with
the whole
Trezor
thing
mircea_popescu: let him be "oh,
that xt pool operator" and hang with it.
mircea_popescu: "good guys" gotta at some point comprehend
the jwz future is no future.
mircea_popescu: anwyay,
this is a perfectly fine
time
to move hashing away from slush, if anyone was looking.
BingoBoingo: Even
though it links
to all
the
times Mircea was right and doesn't have Mircea on
the byline
assbot: In no less
than six years of block size increases XTCoin would be a defanged and impotent caricature of actual Bitcoin. : Buttcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1K9pvHs )
mircea_popescu: well, no. it works as intended : if you extract all
the prefixed lines and wipe
the prefix, you get
the original
text.
punkman: I was also
trying
to make a point about
the |GPG| prefix being useless
mircea_popescu: the correct solution is
to reimplement pgp and make it behave re clearsign.
mircea_popescu: still,
these perfectly valid
technical objections aside - signed is deeply inferior
to clearsigned.
this is a fact, and it won't change.
punkman: you can convert between \r, \r\n and \n without problems
though
mircea_popescu: just making
the point
that it's fucking impossible
to predict wtf it does
punkman: mircea_popescu: I was wrong on
the CR part, not sure on
the exact set of whitespace chars it will happily eat, but it's probably more
than
tabs and spaces. example:
http://dpaste.com/18QBJJY.txt assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 13:20:14; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i don't actually
think
they were READY
to deploy
this autumn. irrespective of
the september
term
they might or might not have lied
to manageement about. << Gavin's eariler marketing campaign made
this autumn
the latest
they could do
this.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
there are
two undistinguishable reasons for silent answer. one's
that no one heard.
ascii_field: when i wrote
that essay, and
there was no positive reaction
to it, i concluded
that bitcoin users are just
too fond of fellating
the invisible cock of
the anonymous microshit vs wizard,
to care half a damn
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 12:05:32; jurov: interesting how my brunch, coffee and b-a
time so often falls into
time where channel is silent
ascii_field: it also occurs
to me
that an anti-bombed bitcoin is only a hardfork ~if~
the bomb falls.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i
thought you had no money, what do you care.
ascii_field: (not carried out, because
they weren't morons..)
ascii_field: i, for instance, am not any more
thrilled about satoshi's blocks being spendable
than a german in 1945 was re:
the
trotyl
that hitler ordered planted on everything worth half a broken pfenning
ascii_field: briefly back
to earlier
thread, i hypothesize
that is s-bomb falls,
the 'counter-bomb' is a schelling point.
mircea_popescu: the
text reads "append as many
trailing spaces/tabs/CRs as you like
to
the clearsigned
text"
punkman: I don't see
trailing spaces/tabs/etc
mircea_popescu: well you can readily see what i added, it's all in
there
mircea_popescu: ascii_field obviously. i'm just saying, you know, here's where
the shore is. for all
the puddles pretending
to be rivers.
BingoBoingo: ng its own motion for
three digits again.
Thank you China!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
that said, yes, people who disregard
their own property can "mess around" with your property. for instance, a guy
that doesn't give a shit about his 50k car can drive it
through your front door. << Incidently used care prices are finally returning
to "normal" pre-Obola-cash-for-clunkers depreciation curve.
Thousand dollar cars are a
thing again. Soon it will probably be possible
to acquire a car capable of providi
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> you can, if you mine it. <<
that requires - shudder - actual resources!
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> "oh, millenium
times" what
the fuck derp argument is
that. you get
the same 25 btc << can't
transact!
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> afaik you need 75% +2week for switch
to work << 75% for just 1 week. Decides
to fuck off faster
than difficulty decides between anal and blow job.
mircea_popescu: perfectly valid fork
that doesn't run into (the mostly valid) problem you raise.
ascii_field: a fork
that doesn't switch workfunction is ipso facto a fraud
mircea_popescu: "oh, millenium
times" what
the fuck derp argument is
that. you get
the same 25 btc for mining a block, here or
there. each hash is worth
the same.
mircea_popescu: then
they could always have done it properly, like above. heck,
they still do.
mircea_popescu: that'd have been
the HONEST approach
to xt, were xt actually powered by
the stuff
they claim it
to be powered by.
ascii_field: (with
the hash power
typically available
to a forker)
mircea_popescu: "here's
the hard fork. mine
the first block or go away"
ascii_field: because
then you get millenium-long block
times
mircea_popescu: all
the altcoin scammers ever did, of course, but for a very
transparent reason.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field youre not required
to starty it at 1 diff.
punkman: you can't fork
the chain at genesis
ascii_field: rather
than deal with premining (or accusations
thereof) and
the whole orchestra.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: only reason is
to hitch a phree ride on
the existing allocations
mircea_popescu: since we're doing nonsense ("you can't
teach a class in nonsense. but
the history of nonsnese -
that's scholarship!"), can anyone explain why exactly would a hard fork not start with its own genesis ? outside of
the fundamentally fraudulent, pious or otherwise, attempt
to pretend like it's something it is most assuredly not ?
ascii_field: and won't un-mix
the mixed s-coin when it ends up everywhere
ascii_field: because proscribing
the blocks later won't un-stampede
the sell-panickers
ascii_field: one hypothesis of mine is
that
the 'anti-bomb' will help not at all unless dropped ~prior~
to
the s-bomb
trinque: supposing it ends up expected
that clients have a sort of "spam" list of bitcoin addresses
they ignore
ascii_field: inventors live,
typically, with a strong but arguably justifiable sense of being scammed by
their fellow man collectively.
trinque: not dead in
that "no more cryptocurrencies"
trinque: yeah, if satoshi says "dead" I'm inclined
to respect
mircea_popescu: heck,
the absence of social recognition for
this is why i won't have kids.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing wrong with preserving
the originator's exercisable right
to end his progeniture.
trinque: and yet, yes, could kill
the
thing otherwise