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mircea_popescu: you run an exchange you need some people. not negotiable.
mircea_popescu: the thing is, it takes 9 months to get a child out of a woman. not negotiable.
mircea_popescu: ya. and we've seen the costs of that.
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: think a little about the 10k a month and under exchanges.
mircea_popescu: but this is the case of mtgox. be it as it may, in most spaces the top dog can at least pay his salt.
mircea_popescu: fixed costs ate them alive all through 2012.
mircea_popescu: whatever you do for servers and the sysadmins etc
mircea_popescu: ( 2400 salary + 2800 tax + 1500 fixed) * 5 = 30k usd in employee costs.
mircea_popescu: let's do some rl math :
mircea_popescu: but take a 1year outlook, it's healthier
mircea_popescu: well, it looks better now for sure.
mircea_popescu: i dont think theior avg is 150 a day.
mircea_popescu: a day ?
mircea_popescu: since there's no competition on fees its clearly not a profitable space.
mircea_popescu: MJR_III simply like this : i look at the immense fees.
mircea_popescu: or you have mtgox, which clears about enough to cover its costs.
mircea_popescu: you have cases with 10k a month which come to 200 btc.
mircea_popescu: listen MJR_III this fees stuff... think for a moment. no exchanger makes money.
mircea_popescu: on the forum
mircea_popescu: the girl made a very good point as to the cost of financial ineptitude vs coding inavbility
mircea_popescu: ya. nonsense huh
mircea_popescu: smickles the redeem codes was a sorta attempt, but meh.
mircea_popescu: tbh fix kinda sucks, but yea
mircea_popescu: at this rate we'll have a btc equiv for fix in 2050
mircea_popescu: MJR_III so far even a fucking naming convention is impossible to contemplate, let alone implem,ent.
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 exchange ops
mircea_popescu: well... other than the obvious "cause they're 16yo aspies"
mircea_popescu: MJR_III that is a good point actually. i have no idea why everyone's so hell bent on being special unique etc.
mircea_popescu: with 6 minute delays ? hft ? srsly ?
mircea_popescu: jcpham wait. what ? you mean on gox ?
mircea_popescu: "this govt's policy has seen our currency drop 40% against btc"
mircea_popescu: soon enough will be a topic in elections
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: as backed by bitcoin, i can see a use for usd/eur/etc
mircea_popescu: it's just going to give it a 2nd youth
mircea_popescu: so no, bitcoin isn't killing fiat.
mircea_popescu: MJR_III kinda what it was intended as, you know ? little notes saying you have gold somewhere
mircea_popescu: i pay for undies in cash to this day
mircea_popescu: im with that.
mircea_popescu: smickles lol i think hr mom painted those
mircea_popescu: jcpham i thought you mined
mircea_popescu: smickles lol that girl looks like she has no neck
mircea_popescu: haha maybe
mircea_popescu: servicing atms is a few levels of complexity atop that
mircea_popescu: but it may take a while. we're not quite able to make asics yet
mircea_popescu: be pretty cool thing to have
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-free-cash-machine/ that thing
mircea_popescu: i imagine the practical way this will work will be the magic cash dispenser
mircea_popescu: i hate to be that ass who keeps linking his articles, but i hate repeating shit more. so MJR_III , ever saw http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 ?
mircea_popescu: Troic exactly.
mircea_popescu: but that's an entirely set of problems from the bitmit thing
mircea_popescu: i still don't think bitcoin is adequate for the retail space
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: and you know you can get gas, and food, and boots
mircea_popescu: she knows she can get undies. for sure.
mircea_popescu: such as the woman with no underwear on but five bucks in her pocket.
mircea_popescu: fiat is regularly used in mission critical situations,
mircea_popescu: nobody's seriously using it for anything much yet.
mircea_popescu: MJR_III well... it also yet benefits from a very low bar.
mircea_popescu: gl.
mircea_popescu: "ebay for bitcoins" is a marketing ploy, different beast.
mircea_popescu: X < Y is a vp.
mircea_popescu: dude. a vp is always comparative.
mircea_popescu: "it costs you less to buy your lube in btc on our site than at your corner lube shop" is a vp.
mircea_popescu: that's not a vp.
mircea_popescu: (leaving aside they don't even know this is where it starts)
mircea_popescu: state it for my benefit, what is bitmit's vp ?
mircea_popescu: the test of a business is the value proposition.
mircea_popescu: i don't see that it is a business at all.
mircea_popescu: go.
mircea_popescu: for a 5% or more discount from amazon.
mircea_popescu: you have five minutes to find me a way to spend 10 btc on items that i could conceivably use during the remainder of 2013
mircea_popescu: unbalanced that metric is meaningless.
mircea_popescu: right
mircea_popescu: yeah. they also don't have the chances of a real business.
mircea_popescu: managers and polecats.
mircea_popescu: i can usually sniff out a half decent manager from a mile away
mircea_popescu: there's a lot to business that's not taught in any c++ manual
mircea_popescu: and this isn't random dickery as in "you must be old" or some shit. the ops experience shows.
mircea_popescu: somebody
mircea_popescu: the vp of LMHV Belgium
mircea_popescu: a woman that was in charge of maersk pacific ops for the past five years
mircea_popescu: some guy who was the near east distribution manager for coca cola since 1992
mircea_popescu: but it doesn't have to be supercorp ceo.
mircea_popescu: for sure.
mircea_popescu: this doesn't validate them as doctors.
mircea_popescu: you can probably make a fuckton selling folk remedies and straight silicone injections into the ass. heck, some people do.
mircea_popescu: i care whether he's a doctor.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how much profit the doctor's office makes.
mircea_popescu: let's go into detail here to understand each other.
mircea_popescu: not at all.
mircea_popescu: the only way to obtain such a thing is if someone with a lot of fmcg experience and contacts actually starts one.
mircea_popescu: that aside : bitcoin desperately needs an ebay killer ap.
mircea_popescu: this "here's a script that sorta replicates functionality now we wait for "the users" to make us a business" is nonsense
mircea_popescu: to kill ebay you need a lot of ops competence.
mircea_popescu: would that be an amazon killer ?
mircea_popescu: imagine if some kid made a html page which read THE REAL AMZON
mircea_popescu: unbalanced basically it's yet another rehash of the old and by now stale "i wrote a script therefore this is a business".