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mircea_popescu: what's it to do with anything ?
mircea_popescu: this is neither here nor there.
mircea_popescu: suppose 2000 users all happened to put an order in at the same time.
mircea_popescu: what difference does that make ?
mircea_popescu: there is a huge gap here.
mircea_popescu: as far as i know the most mtgox can take is something to the order of 10 simultaneous orders. certainly not 100.
mircea_popescu: this happens every ~10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: dude. mpex gets ~2000 orders SIMULTAENOUSLY.
mircea_popescu: which mtgox never handles, afaik.
mircea_popescu: when mpoe bot refreshes its book
mircea_popescu: sturles there's about 2k requests simultaenous atm
mircea_popescu: that's the key factor. get back to me when you see it over .2 or so.
mircea_popescu: $mpexlag
mircea_popescu: heck, that's exactly what mpex does atm.
mircea_popescu: and then that'd be the inhouse broker.
mircea_popescu: and offer a website front for people to connect to
mircea_popescu: once they get that nothing prevents them from being their own amtrade
mircea_popescu: the model doesn't work tho, they need a platform to trade on.
mircea_popescu: same constraints apply, same results arise.
mircea_popescu: as long as it exchanges it's an exchange.
mircea_popescu: listen, just because you think it is doesn't make it so.
mircea_popescu: no, it is not.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: so then what difference do you see between what i wrote and what you wrote above ?
mircea_popescu: okay.
mircea_popescu: because there seem to be pretty huge disconnects here i can't quite bridge.
mircea_popescu: other than being involved in bitcoin, do you know anything about exchanges etc ?
mircea_popescu: listen, not to be an ass, but are you at all qualified to discuss this topic ?
mircea_popescu: what is this, the cartoons ?
mircea_popescu: sturles you don't believe six handles more trade thoroughput than mtgox ?!
mircea_popescu: not mili.
mircea_popescu: 37 microseconds. get it ?
mircea_popescu: read that number again.
mircea_popescu: sturles "Thanks to high capacity reserves and an average round-trip latency of just 37 microseconds for equity trading, investment decisions can be implemented faster and risks adjusted more quickly"
mircea_popescu: taub take 3 weeks to read trilema. dun dun dun.
mircea_popescu: well... this isn't a vote.
mircea_popescu: it is not don;'t be silly.
mircea_popescu: sturles are you about to propose shithole mtgox doing 100mn a month is larger an operation than six ?
mircea_popescu: and they will end up having to use brokers and separate clearance.
mircea_popescu: they're implementing the separate trade engine model (which is good)
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress gpg isn't the point there tho.
mircea_popescu: heh. well then that's the root of our problem.
mircea_popescu: the swiss stock exchange does work.
mircea_popescu: mtgox doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: sturles you don't seem to understand that everything that works works like mpex.
mircea_popescu: but soon enough they'll figure the advantages of splitting it and that'll be that.
mircea_popescu: taub they may try to originally, anyway.
mircea_popescu: which apparently makes me a rare bird, but that's really irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: it's simply the result of me knowing finance
mircea_popescu: they'll copy the mpex model whether they want to or not, because the mpex model is not an accident
mircea_popescu: again : this is not up to discussion. if you want to do this you'll have to do it. otherwise it's not done.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: let them spend that to get a proper platform wtf.
mircea_popescu: they made what, 10mn this month in fees ?
mircea_popescu: of course!
mircea_popescu: the swiss stock exchange. take that.
mircea_popescu: sturles each and every national exchange. ~100 of them.
mircea_popescu: exchange and clearance are sepparate not because peopl;e have nothing better to do with their time, for instance.
mircea_popescu: the only way to do this is the way this is done.
mircea_popescu: and with losers like coinlab.
mircea_popescu: they're already trying to copy the mpex broker model, but they're doing it stupidly/half bakedly
mircea_popescu: there's no way to avoid that.
mircea_popescu: what, you think the romanian stock exchange runs on software developped by romania's central bank governor ?
mircea_popescu: you pay a pretty penny and get decent service.
mircea_popescu: sturles you get a license. there's corps specialising in this.
mircea_popescu: taub in fairness pretty much everyone involved with bitcoin has had a huge task just dropped on their lap.
mircea_popescu: all that's left is to do it.
mircea_popescu: before htey couldn't afford that, so i get it. but now the yhave the money to pay for it,
mircea_popescu: they just need to get a proper platform
mircea_popescu: but it wasn't professionally rewritten.
mircea_popescu: sturles it was rewritten, yes
mircea_popescu: here we go.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/its-been-an-epic-few-days-what-happened/
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mircea_popescu: no, im taking the time to blow this to bits, they're too stupid to live at this point.
mircea_popescu: doh.
mircea_popescu: jesus christ how can they be this stupid
mircea_popescu: omfg mtgox pr ?!
mircea_popescu: lmao what the fuck is that
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: this seems legit.
mircea_popescu: secret ruling. ruling is precedent and precedent is law. ignorance of the law is no defense.
mircea_popescu: le lol.
mircea_popescu: "In a bid to avoid revealing the details of a secret ruling on domestic surveillance, the White House has warned a federal judge that making the decision public could do “exceptionally grave and serious damage to the national security” of the country."
mircea_popescu: toffoo low/vwap/high
mircea_popescu: this is like one of those when serial killer goes on to testify and tells the judge all those people were conspiring to kill him so he was perfectly justified
mircea_popescu: mtgox actually thinks they're doing a good job ?!
mircea_popescu: lmao that shows promise
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=166794
mircea_popescu: sorta treading water.
mircea_popescu: !ticker btct asicminer-pt
mircea_popescu: it's really the story of slaves who can't find masters because they don't know they need them.
mircea_popescu: all this angst and loneliness and rest of the bs they keep making sitcoms about...
mircea_popescu: people.literally.wish.to.serve.
mircea_popescu: moreover...
mircea_popescu: this entire equality bs is an expensive fiction really.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> They want him to take his proper place as lord, and the peasants want to serve him in that way. << you know, people do.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: govt is the only thing that'd hire them
mircea_popescu: they have no skills, no ability and won't do any work.