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mircea_popescu: but, importantly, teaching the controversy re the 2nd ammendment in terms of "to own or not to own guns" is nonsense.
ascii_field: he is the tool, like the axe. but king who ordered 'heads off', is also acting predictably, no ?
ascii_field: now this was always plainly obvious to students of witchcraft prosecutions
mircea_popescu: because... they are, lol.
mircea_popescu: why do people think whosoever they don't grasp is inspired by satan himself ?
mircea_popescu: it's very plain game theory at work.
mircea_popescu: and this is why "incomprehensible" and "evil" are so deeply entertwined throughout the history of thought.
mircea_popescu: "why can't you be more like plants, said the sheep to the wolf"
mircea_popescu: dominating your environment reduces to ... understanding it.
mircea_popescu: the demand to rationality reduces to "act in a manner i can understand"
trinque: yes, something like I have a model of reality (even if incomplete) and act coherently within that model?
mircea_popescu: if the soviets think the germans are being rational and are right, the soviets win. if vice-versa, vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: trinque well think about it. what does "rational" mean ? that YOU can understand it, right ?
mircea_popescu: (and yes this is also why the state urges the individual to "be rational". oooofcourseitwould. the only rational thing to do is to preserve the 5th amendment, which is to say : i reserve the right to unilaterally shoot any and all policemen on my say so. because that's what fucking independence is.)
trinque: hm, why is rationality on the side of the defeated?
mircea_popescu: "women" may be "dumb". but they're not this dumb.
mircea_popescu: think about it for a second. in any game, the "rational" player is the defeated player. rational in this context merely means "that which has been intellectually dominated by the other side".
trinque: I've heard lots of moaning about "make the world the way I want" from women
trinque: well how far does this "accessible to him" go?
trinque: sounds like female expectation is fundamentally irrational then.
mircea_popescu: the last time things made sense to me i was 5 years old.
mircea_popescu: now, a may or may not be true. but b ? fuck you lmao.
mircea_popescu: it's a fundamental expectation that a) world is reasonably constructed and b) the reasons are accessible. to him.
PeterL: "If I follow these steps, the girls will want to date me" sort of thinking?
mircea_popescu: it's usually absurdistanisms of the sort. they drive the type of thinker PeterL's cartoon illustrates absolutely fucking batshit
trinque: what I'm thinking of is this general "pay attention to me" I've heard a great deal lately
assbot: Bitcoin on Twitter: "Bitcoin Nodes: Surviving a Transaction Flood | Qntra http://t.co/qr4GDO5ssM" ... ( http://bit.ly/1hJNNx0 )
BingoBoingo: Anyways I think a Fundnation account even puts forth qntra nao https://archive.is/LEfBR
mircea_popescu: (seinfeld kinda moicks it in their own retarded toothless way with the marine biologist.
mircea_popescu: nah it's never subjective like that.
BingoBoingo: It's all about who you are mean to.
mircea_popescu: trinque you gotta appreciate young female mating behaviour. what they generally do is pick a small ante.
trinque: doesn't twitter have an HR-department style "don't be mean" policy now?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It matters little, but helps the qntra get a bit broader audience than this channel
danielpbarron: twitter is useful for trolling, although they are cracking down on that by coming up with ways to sort replies so that the less favorable ones get hidden behind "click to see the rest" b.s.
mircea_popescu: i guess that's the one true social media lifecycle : packaging attacks the sort of derps who buy into packaging, which in turn attract the trolls, who naturally feed on them.
trinque: mircea_popescu: terrible incentives. I told a chick the other day that she communicates like she expects her sentences to be retweeted.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo who for some reason thin kit matters.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Not at all for that. It's another broadcast channel so long as it lasts. Also useful for yelling at small market sports commentators
kakobrekla: >It doesn't seem to be one you use often. Personally, being on lists has never been a good thing for me. < now you are on the list of people not being on the list!
mircea_popescu: went to shit within the year.
mircea_popescu: trinque a decade ago in ro it was where all the minxen decided to gather.
mircea_popescu compulsively clicks on all the stuff b-a people put in chan.
mircea_popescu: "i was in the spelling bee!"
BingoBoingo: probably useless for you trinque barely useful for me
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wait, "i'm the soccer mom married to a fbi derp" "i was an anarchist" ? what else was the retard, a cheerleader ?
trinque: deleted my twatter the other day
mircea_popescu: in similar news : why does this make one cringe and think "crash!" http://40.media.tumblr.com/XeVQDo0c64zy1zmxmAyOiEu3_500.jpg ?
assbot: DI$RUPTIV3 on Twitter: "@danielpbarron Oh fuck you! Piss off you piece of shit I was an anarchist when you were jacking off to Hillary Duff Suck it! @BraveTheWorld" ... ( http://bit.ly/1JqJOy5 )
assbot: 'Using tame() in userland' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1JqINpZ )
punkman: well here then, have 100 diffs http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=144070638327053&w=2
mircea_popescu: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=143725996614627&w=2 << this is actually a good idea.
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:47:54; kakobrekla: prolly not so much 'not daring' than 'not having'. like in the majority of cases.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254403 << im too lazy to dig up where he had a chance to run a mpif thing. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> lol, my thing stays connected pretty well i guess. << You hit a mega netsplit earleir
mircea_popescu: trinque quite. economic sanity is the cornerstone.
PeterL: seems like this fits here: http://xkcd.com/1570/
trinque: it's ever clearer to me that there can be no sanity apart from economic sanity, and that everything good outside bitcoin will rot in the sun meanwhile
trinque: yeah, I was recalling that
BingoBoingo: <trinque> so when I switch to OpenBSD, they're going to announce their strategic partnership with the FBI? << iirc FBI tried the stealthy version of this around 2003 cleaned house quietly and FBI guy went full derp about it again around 2010
mircea_popescu: ascii_field intelligence is not related to this.
ascii_field: judging by the few snippets of his i read
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: thing is, fella had a project, just not one that anybody wanted
mod6: lol, my thing stays connected pretty well i guess.
mod6: looks that way.
mircea_popescu: i guess in the end very similar.
mircea_popescu: ocols, he incorrectly identifies it as "more of the same", goes through the word game, is suprised that this is a dead end.
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:29:38; asciilifeform: re: pankkakeing: the basic process is, i think, that someone shows up here, plays for a while, then understands that rocket will not come, will not take him to mars. and leaves - unless he had some entirely other reason for sticking around, such as having become embroiled in actual projects with other people here.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254393 << mno. imo the basic process is, kid lived entire life in circumstances where a) there is cleavage between words and reality ; b) resources are allocated on the basis of group apartenence rather than factual merit ; c) group apartenence is a matter of saying the right words. upon meeting #b-a, which to his inept eyes has very ellaborately, formally structured prot ☝︎
trinque blows on the mic
mod6: hmm that's weird. what am i, stale?
trinque: see, you don't have to be good at your "passion", it's just this vague focal point off in the glorious future somewhere
trinque: this "I'm trying to" reminds me of being asked in job interviews what my "passion" is
mircea_popescu: ^ only way to run an office with white people < 40 in it, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck are you doing" "i'm just trying to..." "bend over."
ascii_field: 'there is no try' (tm) (r) ('star wars')
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter. look around. it's what white middle class twerps say when they're trying to talk their way out of shit.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what was it they 'tried to' ?
mircea_popescu has had for a while auto-lashing for saying the words "i'm trying to". one lash per instance. two bonus for adding any "just" in there.
mircea_popescu: but to answer cazalla : owing to a by now two decades' traditsion of middle class pushing its inept offspring to "pretend like you're doing something", there's millions of kids floating about with very good first line of answer to "so what are you doing". except if you inquire past that their choice is to either take off or admit they suck. generally, they take off.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254378 << after the fact. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:13:02; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254314 << laugh, but all of this has to be in some sense true, or the place would be indistinguishable from zimbabwe. i just looked out my window. i do not - yet - see zimbabwe. ergo some 'meta-' is in the mix.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254370 <<< mno. luck and "temporary disturbance" is the parsimonious explanation. for some short interval in a well chosen nigerian locaiton you could have pretended the same. then the oil bubble went awya. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:06:45; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ... the whole thing's a small nudge or ten away from people with guns realizing that cops hate getting shot at ... << important to distinguish city police (the folks presently getting shot at) from fed gendarmerie (alphabet soup) - the latter just ~love~ it, on account of it giving them an excuse to waco. all that armour, heavy weaponry, poison gas, flying machines that they've stockpiled,
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254366 << "shot at" != killed. the point isn't to shoot at. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 10:08:53; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254251 <<< it is funded by boost VC, that start up school where kid draper pisses away daddy draper's money on shit on awful ideas like zapchain itself and follow the coin.. boost VC pivoted to cover VR tech so zapchain is also covering VR these days as well!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254342 << check out cazalla on top of his game. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: fuck that.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't know enough about torvalds, but i suspect that his bargain with satan, from which he sleeps ad libitum, involves putting up with this crud
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i suggest him to NOT BE A FUCKING "FELLOW".
trinque: ascii_field: shout at people, I thought his schtick was that
trinque: I thought he was supposed to be the big mean dictator man of linux
ascii_field: what would you suggest to him to do ?
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 16:41:03; mircea_popescu: and this idiot is putting up with it. why the everloving fuck would you do something like this
mircea_popescu: diude there's a lot of them
trinque: everyone wants to be an apple ad.
trinque: I have to lay some of the blame for this starry-eyed world-changer vibe at the grave of Jobs
trinque: not communism but an american advertisement thereof
trinque: you imagine the amount of zoloft it takes for this chick to sound this positive about god knows what?
trinque: they've done this