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mircea_popescu: cazalla pretty fucking stupid deal, yeah. who
the fuck advises
these people.
cazalla: i would hazard a guess
that
the lifetime supervision is about minimising
the chances
this kid can enact his own justice once he reaches an age where he realises what a dud deal
this was for him (around
the
time he gets out i would guess)
ascii_field: 'life supervision' << is
this
the first sentence of its kind ?
trinque: and I'm skeptical
there are even "groups"
to speak of
trinque: if
they pit one group against another, great. serves it well
trinque: there's no particular oppression of
the whites going on except as a subset of
the kind of oppression
the socialist state commits generally
mircea_popescu: (much like
the reformed us military is about as useless as sugared sardines)
mircea_popescu: mercenary
troops wehre
the late medieval/renaissance equivalent of art collecting.
mircea_popescu: "Furthermore, when
the nobility went
to war,
they would employ foreign mercenaries as auxiliary
troops." <<
this, in partiucular, is rank nonsense.
kakobrekla: trinque voice part is session based, bot was restarted
to ignore deedbot- rss links
mircea_popescu: well
they are, if you're looking at it.
to
the neurologist or w/e.
trinque: that
the zaps in synapses are phenomena
trinque: rather, I suppose I am
thinking with phenomena
mircea_popescu: you can contrast it with ontology, or gnoseology for
that matter. and obviously you can build other quite clever sturctures. but yours didn't mean anything is all.
trinque: point is
that one may
think about phenomena, and not with?
mircea_popescu: not
the point.
the point is
that "phenomenology" is directly equivalent with "which discusses
things
that happen"
trinque: mircea_popescu: makes sense. collecting sea shells on a stroll is not
thinking
mircea_popescu: trinque in any case "phenomenological
thinking" is a void concept.
thinking is not described by
the subject it's applied
to. you said something roughly like "lighting electrictiy". sure, it can be used
to bring light.
mod6: ascii_field: ok np, seems
to be happy again
mircea_popescu: (and
the difference is quite understood by native english speakers, at
that. consider how "universal karma" sounds vs "cosmic karma". which evokes govt bureaucracy and why ?)
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mircea_popescu: as if you know. but hey,
the sets are rheaaallly very important
to
them i
tell you.
trinque: is
this sort of phenomenological
thinking vs
thinking in
terms of
theory and structure?
mircea_popescu: the latter are preoccupied chiefly with entrance barriers, and are debating, predictably, if building a wall across colorado is worth
the hassle.
mircea_popescu: trinque quite exactly : a cosmos is
the graph of perceptibles. a universe is
the set of perceptibles.
trinque: I don't know
that
the relationships need be between
things which would be considered
to be in
the same set
trinque: well, a set would be a rigorously defined category of
things sharing properties
mircea_popescu: but can you explain
the difference between graph and set ?
trinque: but I'm by no means happy with
those definitions
trinque: causes me
to
think, but I'll first suppose
that
the former includes
the multitude of
things within, and
the latter refers
to
the structure within which
those
things exist
mircea_popescu: trinque can you explain
the difference between cosmos and universe ?
trinque: might've used "soul"
there in
the past
trinque: hm, yeah. I have
trouble with
that one.
mircea_popescu: whereas
the idea of body as in "body politic" is all but dead in english,
today.
mircea_popescu: three fucking words. because one's
the mechanical body, and
the other
the biologic body, and
the
third
the metaphysical body.
BingoBoingo: More
than anything I use
the numbers as a rough combination of interactions and "bus factor"
mircea_popescu: for instance, in english : "they found
the body" (ie, corpse) ; "smoking is bad for
the body" (ie, mechanism) ;
this is
the body of christ.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, yeah i understand
the numbers
thing only has value
to you, so i am sure you will not be offended
that i don't rate higher
than a 4-5 for anyone i've yet
to share a meal with.
mircea_popescu: and yes
this discussion of structure does merely belie much deeper divergence in
the actual usage, which i suspect is driven by fundamental divergence in phylosophy.
mircea_popescu: "how representative of
this person i consider my experience with
them"
BingoBoingo: Oh, I did
the WoT clean up just a little bit ago
BingoBoingo: cazalla: We share a business. It's survived nearly a year. Also
the particular numbers next
to ratings don't exactly mean much.
trinque recalls
the "visual programming" project, sees it now as an autoimmune reaction
to english and various not-lisps
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that should be it for nao
trinque: seems like exactly
the same dump-truck full of partially digested concepts in both cases
mircea_popescu: it is perhaps not an idle
topic of inquiry
to find how much of
the rotten-ness of extant software stack mostly comes from
the unfortunate happenstance
that it was written by people who spoke english with
their women.
trinque: right,
takes much more verbosity
to convey similar, but not
the same meaning
mircea_popescu: ascii_field much like
the british empire was a pretension, not a reality.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
that's an explanation, i dare say, not a
translation
trinque: is
that "homini" like "upon other men"
mircea_popescu: english, as spoken by
the fucking queen, before
they got
the current crop of hamburg
tavern wenches, was in point of fact an actual language.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field no you can, check it out : man is
the wolf of men / man is wolf
to men.
mircea_popescu: but
the main problem english faces is
that it fails
to make
the complemet distinctions. in romanian : la baieti (to
the boys) ; baietilor (to
the boys). first
tells you where,
the 2nd whom.
trinque: IRC seems
to have influenced me
to drop certain subjects, certain articles
mircea_popescu: it declines and you're supposed
to guess from declension
trinque: I've suspected due
to
the way russian speakers speak english, "a" and "the" might be absent or expressed differently
mircea_popescu: and yes, about half
the population doesn't get
them right on
the first
try.
mircea_popescu: "are you a pleb or did your parents have enough spare food in your childhood
to have
the
time
to
teach you
the fucking cases"
mircea_popescu: incidentally
the little card
trading game illustrated above is
the romanian #1 class distinguisher.
ascii_field: (it is not given
to any one language
to have all
the jumpers set)
mircea_popescu: which is why it used
to be mandatory for learned gentlemen.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all structure of language at
the outset of possibility is in
there. once you learn it it's just "fill
the colors" for any other.
trinque: will have
to dedicate some later part of life
to improving my grasp of other languages.
mircea_popescu: (these
three males) + (belonging
to
that guy) = ai aceluia ; (this single female) + (belonging
to
that group of females) = a acelora.
trinque: yeah, I can begin
to see how a particular language can limit
the specificity of expression
mircea_popescu: so you have
the seemingly confounding a/al/ai/ale + acesta/acela aceasta/aceea acestia/aceia acestea/acelea. for a grand
total of omfg it's romanian -
the gathering!
mircea_popescu: like in romanian you can ask "ale cui is pizdele astea ?" (whose are
these cunts ?) and
the anser come "ale aceluia" (that guy's) or ale aceleia (that gal's) etc.
mircea_popescu: (demonstrative is what got boiled down into
this/that/these/those)
trinque: "this particular one of
the set" which is what, dieser?
trinque: though
their specificity, I'm sure very useful
trinque: was
trying
to learn;
the myriad articles still kick my puny english ass
trinque: I love
the way
the german language sounds.
trinque: punkman: given existing computing systems, I'd rather run a wire
than use pulseaudio's streaming
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> wow who
thought we'd see
the day where Apple is pro-privacy and Google
takes
the opposite side << google just wants
their "privacy".
https et all.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, guy didn't come out of nowhere. he was prepping for it longer
than it'd have
take
to do 5 bootcamps.
mircea_popescu: <trinque> lets bolt networking
to
the sound stack because
that'll look sweet on my resume << quite.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> ""According
to Karl Marx, 'The philosophers have only << hurrr. nice lol.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>
the other assertions << college is slightly harder because
tight packed in sardine can. other girls keep
tabs on
the hot guys.