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mircea_popescu: you are not, incidentally,
the first
to confront
this.,
mircea_popescu: is
that his brain has decided it will not live without
the products of industry ; while his ass does not enjoy
the delights of anal proximity ; while
the
two are insepoarable, respectively : his ass from his head, and industry from maggotry.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: his
tragedy, and make no mistake alf is a
true
tragic figure,
trinque: you have
to own
the context of
the ass!
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's
true
that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but
the
two are fundamentally unrelated, and
there is such a
thing as
the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on
the side of hte road.
mircea_popescu: and
this is purely a subjective problem, no matter what it masquerades as.
mircea_popescu: you can not "buy back own arse", at any price, for as long as you
think in
those
terms or anything like
them, your ass is public property.
mircea_popescu: yes but
the problem with
that worldview is
that it makes absolutely no sense.
mircea_popescu: much like genitalia belong, indivise,
to "the other gender" as a group
mircea_popescu: i agree you're poor as per 3. you like
to claim it's as per 1.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i
think you
two are conflating at least
three
things.
there is 1. "not having any ability
to direct
the course of public affairs, as encoded in "money" in
this society" ; 2. "not having 1 and perceiving one should have it" ; 3. perceiving one should not have it.
mod6: not
that
they're not good info, or good signals in a market place. but if you go shopping and have
to
think about weather you can afford
to buy something, you're not rich.
trinque: why would someone who knew enough about money
to keep it ignore
those
mod6: i agree with ascii; if you have
to look at
the price
tags, you're not rich.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform:
then you're only borderline ! gov says !
trinque: all
these diseases smack of "ate not-food most of my life"
trinque: she did also have an issue with lactose, had less
trouble with
that unpasteurized milk from
the nearby farm
trinque: mircea_popescu: not
to my knowledge. it'd be a good experiment
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:49:46; asciilifeform: having
to, e.g., work for a living, actually compute costs of
things, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but autism is an actual
thing, or you disagree with
the very notion ?
trinque: perhaps
the immune system gets irritated, marks
the gluten instead of whatever else
trinque: again, I wouldn't be surprised if it's some garbage
that was in wheat production processes at some point
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you know, something not being known in 1800 is not automatic proof
the something doesn't exist.
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't know
the mechanism, but I've seen
the bloody shits.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: oddly, my metabolism has worked in
the reverse of
that
theory. ate it regularly, eventually 'had problems', now, few years on, can handle small amounts
mircea_popescu: the difference between
the black slave of 1815 and
the black freeman of 2015 is
that
the former actually
thinks
that,
to paraphrase, ", you don't get
to fuck
the white mistress."
trinque: folks with celiacs will actually scar
the lining of
their intestines eating gluten
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i developed gluten intolerance (not dissimilar
to lactose intolerance as an experience) as an adult. why ? monsanto ? youthful rebellion against grain-growing ancestors ? who knows
trinque: I half-suspect it's an autoimmune
thing caused by not wheat, but something
they had in
the production
thereof
trinque: oh indeed, and loved american "rock and roll" from
the 80s
mircea_popescu: (/me has known enough of
the sort by noiw,
to
the degree he mostly points at
their face and laughs)
trinque: mircea_popescu:
translating lol. I knew an Argentine chick; she did exactly
this, and was supposed
to be intellectual because of it
mircea_popescu: trinque i'll give you an extra lol. recently
the source of
the "salt is bad mkay", ie
the ustardemia, came out with an admission of
the fraudulent nature of
that entire swathe of "research".
this however has not yet reached
the latino "scientists" who mostly exist
through
translating
things and pretending.
☟︎ trinque: but it's more "filler"
than mcd's
trinque: you check
the nutrition label and it has nothing in it
pete_dushenski just had a moment imagining
taxation
that wasn't ~distributive~ but actually for summun bonum
trinque: my favorite alt-food crackpottery is
the gluten free
thing
mircea_popescu: that article i did about "cheers",
the sitcom is very illustrative.
twerp in question imagines "class" as in,
that ancient matter of a person's quality in society, is a matter of anointed. she
thinks some vagabond is "high class" because she went
to some school.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only redistyributive
taxation can create
this situation where
they who should be rich
think
they're somehow poor, and
the poor wear alternatively idiot and imbecile clothes.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform>
the other interesting
thing is
that
the market is segmented in such a way
that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~
the alt-crackpotteries, not merely
the logical ones <<
this is a very valid point, and
the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe
the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
mircea_popescu: in mid july 1989 govt was pretending like romanians did useful work. by 1992 govt was out and out saying
that
the ~65 dollars a month you earn is barely justified by your work value.
trinque: mats: aw, isn't sociopathic
to pull
the plug on grandpa when cancer's eating him all
through
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i read pop sci, pop mech, growing up.
they fascinated me even in
the early 90s. will have
to check on 50s back copies
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski /me lived like
that for a coupla decades, actually. ro of
the 90s was a fab
thing.
pete_dushenski: probably what 1950's usa felt like, on
the improvement score
trinque: hell I'd just like
to watch it rip loose
pete_dushenski: what it would be like
to live in an age when ~everything~ seems
to be improving, may we one day find out, but
that will be a long day from
today
pete_dushenski: and while it may feel like everything on
the verge,
things can feel
that way for decades
trinque: everything crawls, maybe due
to
the attention span of
the modern media consumer
trinque: never have I felt like so many
things were on
the verge of... well, god knows what... all at once.
mod6: dow was up 293 points
today. im sure
they use
the circut breakers just as much when price movements are
to
the upside.
trinque: yeah, but all
they're doing is acknowledging
the rumors from elsewhere
mod6: are you still
trying
to find MSM articles on
that? i dug one up from bbc earlier...
mircea_popescu: once people lose
the ability
to confront кто ты по жизни (and notice i did not say "answer"), a numeric classification system is unavoidable.
mod6: oh yeah,
they
tried
to pass all
that
through a while back.
mircea_popescu: and
the exact same
thing is coming
to an us near you. because if you let
the
twerps "be what
they want
to be",
they'll want
to be "creative evangelists at large" and similar randy zuckerbergianisms. which aren't
things.
mircea_popescu: (the silent H in all
this being : no, an argentine can't pretend
to me
to be X or Y or Z. because i have a schematic understanding of what he MAY be, and
that is
the absolute and enforced limit of his destiny.)
mircea_popescu: by
the
time blood solids separate out of plasm
the body's long dead.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but saying "the government wants nat'l ids
to oppress people" is like saying "maggots want blood separation
to kill
the corpse".
mircea_popescu: the problem is -
they do not.
they merely are made unavoidable by
the already lost individual agency. which people lose because it's
too heavy
t ocarry, like
the late roman army shield and helmet.
mircea_popescu: and yes, i understand
that
the view in
the us is
that such schemes
take away individual agency.
mod6: everyone has
these id cards?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's a fine exercise in
the importance of "national identity" schemes.
they exist so
that
the actual people can make some sort of sense of
the cattle.
mircea_popescu: it is
the one saving grace because otherwise
twerpy as
they are
they'd be entirely unsuable.
mircea_popescu: like, what
their mother's name was and employment history and whatnot
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in daily argentinian lols :
their government is deeply inept (so much so
that id cards actually have chips with medical history and whatnot).
takes me about
ten minutes
to have complete history on anyone on
the basis of
their identity number.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> funkenstein_: comfortable when empty but for you. << ro anecdote. many years ago /me went
to pick up new slavegirl, decided on
train for return
trip. rented out whole compartment. upon entering ordered girl
to strip and masturbate. cue VERY amazed
train conductor guy checking
tickets, level with and
two feet away from rubbed clit.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> everyone just eats from bag, like a horse, whenever. << good enough for
the pakistani's rapemeat warehouse.
mircea_popescu: take
that away, having
towns is a waste of everyone's
time.