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asciilifeform: each one that someone spills coffee on, is one less.
asciilifeform: at some point, they won't exist at ~any~ price.
asciilifeform: thing could be produced today for toy store price
asciilifeform: mats: frustrating, ikr? there's maybe $2 worth of material in there.
mats: at 200 apiece i think I'll pass for nao
funkenstein_ expects maths to work rather similarly on any continent
mircea_popescu: not we. them.
funkenstein_: i mean, if m-pesa already does everything we need, what's the point of using bitcoin?
mats: jesus the hp 16c goes for 200+ ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, isn't that it doesn't provide utility, but not to *them*
funkenstein_: wilbns, uh.. just curious what do you think the point of public coin is?
asciilifeform: kenyans need bitcoin like they need gunn diodes.
wilbns: also, in kenya, for example bitcoin doesn't provide much utility beyond what m-pesa already does. the current area companies like bitpesa are trying to get traction are in remittances (where one party doesn't have m-pesa because they're outside the country), or by pitching it as a speculative financial instrument or novelty.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 23:18:36; fluffypony: cazalla: it's not even me, Africans don't want Bitcoin because they're quite happy dealing in cash and not paying tax
assbot: What it’s like to be poor. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1EECHDN )
asciilifeform: after i'm dead it will be sold per pound, prolly for much less than old car.
mircea_popescu: can i buy it for the price of an old car ? :D
asciilifeform: it is 'capital goods' strictly in the sense that a beggar's shoes are.
asciilifeform: and i laugh out loud re: pete_dushenski thinking that my stash of junk is 'capital goods'. all of it put together wouldn't buy an old car.
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:54:44; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya
mircea_popescu: <phf> i don't know understand why everything needs to be made so idiotic. << heh.
assbot: Renée Graham: Kim Davis follows the footsteps of George Wallace - The Boston Globe ... ( http://bit.ly/1EECkc6 )
ag3nt_zer0: any thoughts on this? https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/09/03/renee-graham-kim-davis-follows-footsteps-george-wallace/4Hqsf6bhQoXMwhjLu0cMLO/story.html
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:57:05; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262290 << yours for $15 (pdf though) https://dl.acm.org/purchase.cfm?id=363827&CFID=542942868&CFTOKEN=64707750
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262303 << if i wanted to send money to copyrasts i know where to do it ☝︎
phf: i don't know understand why everything needs to be made so idiotic. i mean, what is this, making your 50 years of scientific research hip? you know, for the kids.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: lived there for a time, yep. grew up in the Houston burbs
funkenstein_: Re: Method in Randomness <-- well I'd never heard of "deepdyve", where do they find gnomes to work on this kind of bullshit? They gave me 5 minutes to "view" the article (in crippled form) in exchange for a fake email.
trinque: phf: could amount to nothing, but that part's not much up to them
assbot: Logged on 04-09-2015 02:47:49; asciilifeform: is anyone here able to locate M. Greenberger, 'Method in randomness,' Comm. ACM 8 (1965) ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262290 << yours for $15 (pdf though) https://dl.acm.org/purchase.cfm?id=363827&CFID=542942868&CFTOKEN=64707750 ☝︎☟︎
phf: trinque: i agree with you though, i'm judging by central pa, northern maryland, which is not necessarily the cities, but still within the sprawl.
ag3nt_zer0: not a huge mellancamp fan but he works hard up there and he does have some great tunes
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah it was... mellancamp brought it that night... it was his 14 year old sons bday or something and he brought him out to play bass or something it was a good time
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: there's plenty of poor v. rich dialogue in this latest contravex for ya ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: left behnd the detritus and have people there who just are happy he shares his trip with them - honestly
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] What it’s like to be poor. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/03/what-its-like-to-be-poor/
ag3nt_zer0: and I just thought that the fact that he had shed his fanbase skin so many times resulted in a nice blend of people - christians, hippies, old school folkies, some rockers haha whatever
ag3nt_zer0: one time I saw him during his monio league baseball park tour with willie nelson and john mellancamp
ag3nt_zer0: I have been making it a point to go see dylan every time he comes by the gay area for the last 6-7 years... probably seen him 5-6 times in that stretch
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: oh man... slow train... I bow
asciilifeform: is anyone here able to locate M. Greenberger, 'Method in randomness,' Comm. ACM 8 (1965) ? ☟︎
assbot: Slow Train - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1UvZXpc )
pete_dushenski: watch, mircea_popescu will try chengdu for a year then move back to romania.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That one's going to take a bit.
assbot: Denny’s Market Researcher Emerges From Focus Group Shaken After Finding Out What Americans Really Want For Breakfast - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1UvZALf )
trinque: and it's causing me to reflect on what I left behind in TX
trinque: relatedly I am ending my current tour in the pac NW for a time, headed back to TX
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 19:47:36; trinque: these gun-toting christians hate socialism, so I like them just fine
phf: came up when i started trash talking american christians
pete_dushenski: trinque: was something in particular inspiring this reflection ?
trinque: pete_dushenski: it continues to yield fruit, this tree
trinque: that they have the thought of serving someone or something is some kind of first step
pete_dushenski: trinque: aha that old gem !
trinque: pete_dushenski: I'm yielding to your point here, I think.
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: kinda what I meant about "command structure" in teh logs
pete_dushenski: prolly an html5 thing then. i dun use flash.
phf: seems like they pulled a lot of dylan tracks
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-09-2015#1262093 << they aren't in such bad company: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sI5WekW78 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:20:02; asciilifeform: one reason why they push fingerprints and similar crap is the 'prima facie' concept
asciilifeform: The difference: it is legally binding under .EE law. Not like the loose PGP.'
assbot: I’m now an Estonian e-resident, but I still don’t know what to do with it | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1XndlA5 )
trinque: general attempt to discourage on-the-ground journalism?
trinque: maybe also in part, they're trying to protect the ISIS/Turkey connection
pete_dushenski: except... "We will not seriously consider anyone if they include explicit material in the video," Pornhub Vice President Corey Price said via email.
pete_dushenski: "For students seeking to make some extra bucks to pay for tuition, Pornhub may be able to help. The adult video website is offering a $25,000 scholarship to a legal age college student who likes making others happy. "
asciilifeform: gonna guess it's 'jihadcrypt' or whatever that idiocy was called.
asciilifeform: 'Three journalists working with Vice News have been charged with "engaging in terrorist activity" on behalf of ISIL (ISIS), because one of them used encryption software. A Turkish official told Al Jazeera: "The main issue seems to be that the [journalists'] fixer uses a complex encryption system on his personal computer that a lot of ISIL militants also utilise for strategic communications."'
assbot: Journalists arrested on terrorism charges in Turkey for using crypto software | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1XncK1d )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/09/journalists-arrested-on-terrorism-charges-in-turkey-for-using-crypto-software
asciilifeform: is mircea_popescu just testing how much sophistry i can take before i have to go and change gas mask canister ?
mircea_popescu: by this reasoning, real spies could never be caught dead in drag.
asciilifeform: reasoning inductively, from 'any intelligence org that runs winblows on wintel is a joke'
mircea_popescu: what " has to be sovereign over own tools of thought" ?
asciilifeform: or that.
assbot: The Hour Of Reckoning on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KNFRFX )
asciilifeform: is this where we do the 2013 thread re: whether a fully-knowable computing machine is possible, all over again ?
mircea_popescu: but the point is, as your brain's not "sovereign" in this sense, no computer ever will be, and there goes that line.
asciilifeform: brain is not the gold standard, aha. there is a reason why 'mentats' are creatures of imagination and we compute with machines whenever the least bit possible.
asciilifeform: how's that?
mircea_popescu: but... this is a biological impossibility.
asciilifeform: or not worthy of the name.
thestringpuller: irrelavant tho sorry
asciilifeform: meta-nsa has to be sovereign over own tools of thought.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: ah I see. more of a cave. always thought superman was the one with teh "fortress"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i get that humint can be done entirely via 'hashishim' dissolved in planet at large, etc. but build me one single z80 this way.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller isn't batman this derp with a fortress ?
mircea_popescu: btw, am i the only one that finds it funny that some dude whose name was MANning decided to be a woman ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i assume you're referring to "The Dark Knight Returns".
mircea_popescu: irl, "physical army" never works for thios purpose. what you get is, at best, private manning
mircea_popescu: yeah that's totally how it worked for batman too
asciilifeform: nukes - captive industrial base to parasitise.
asciilifeform: and i will say that an entity without si fabbing capability is no meta-nsa regardless of what else.
asciilifeform: see the 'fortress' discussion.
asciilifeform: anyway we're imagining a physical army vs underground cells, so it stands to reason that it would work for a geographic sovereign
asciilifeform: just as an imaginary loch ness monster can listen to bbc vs voice of america for no entirely good reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which'd work for the usg rather than for alt-mp because why.
asciilifeform: this is why i play in my head with the idea of an all-chick meta-nsa.
mircea_popescu: just going by the "there's more wives with secret children than men at any given point"
thestringpuller: what about that chick who was in mossad...