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mircea_popescu: "to feague a horse is to put ginger up a horse’s fundament, and formerly, as it is said, a live eel, to make him lively and carry his tail well. It is said, a forfeit is incurred by any horse-dealer’s servant, who shall show a horse without first feaguing him."
mircea_popescu: jborkl there was a dude earlier telling me my article is out of date
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this includes most researchers you know ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that separation is a matter of fact.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you can safely identify someone that way.
mircea_popescu: you'd be amazed what an excellent cocksucker sleeps in any random chick.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at the risk of sounding insufficiently misanthropic, i beg to differ.
mircea_popescu: very weak society, one that wants the benefit but doesn't enjoy the labour.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well i thouight we're discussing statistics.
mircea_popescu: but americans are disused. they will need to re-learn the hard way
mircea_popescu: problem is, cultures which have this ethos don't need the pathos
mircea_popescu: ya but the problem is there's no way to value education w/o the markings on your ass.
mircea_popescu: it's a "rational agent", ie, like water : can be dammed, can be piped...
mircea_popescu: notice that you pose false questions. the us govt has absolutely no choice on who and what to spend.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the unions have a great idea on the subject.
mircea_popescu: by now it's some gang leader guy, with the charisma and the requisite qualities.
mircea_popescu: kids learn from whoever they respect. in the 1850s that was the teacher.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves my idea was that the reason us edsucation is fucked atm is exactly the misuse of money.
mircea_popescu: but in poihnt of fact you can always survive w/o knowing shit.
mircea_popescu: jurov im just saying, this is the way things'd work absolutely. that it's not implementable... not my problem :D
mircea_popescu: jurov shockingly obedience is very easy to unlearn if you're trained properly
mircea_popescu: there's this VERY grim undercurrent in education people never wish to face.
mircea_popescu: at some point you either beg to be allowed to learn it
mircea_popescu: and i usually go "ya douchy, i own you in any way and you dunno what my degree is for. wd."
mircea_popescu: MJR_ for that matter, people keep going "o, i dunno what good a philosophy degree would be IRL"
mircea_popescu: the recent method of i dunno wtf it is... has kids... not able to multiply.
mircea_popescu: this has had kids know multiplication for ~2500 years.
mircea_popescu: age honored way is to go "either you learn this or i mash you into a pulp"
mircea_popescu: but explain this to me. kid's nine. he should be learning multiplication table. how does that get done ?
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to help. all you can do is "learn this!" as an absolute imperative.
mircea_popescu: you can't expect them to self-motivate. if they had enough of a clue as to what's what they wouldn't need school.
mircea_popescu: the problem kids face, especially while small, is that they have no clue. that's why they're in school, to figure shit out.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well... you can't improve it the way you broke it i think.
mircea_popescu: jurov punishment only works if the punished literally perceives there is no alternative and his life is forfeit.
mircea_popescu: until you're optimal for it. not the other fucking way around.
mircea_popescu: "because if you don't i'll fucking beat you to death" is an excellent answer.
mircea_popescu: listen, it's very simple. kid today as 5000 years ago has to answer a simple question : why the fuck am i learning all this ?