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mircea_popescu: you know, over here they stuff themselves with "chicharron".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Those were the better cut.
asciilifeform: somehow, have working taste buds, or seem to
asciilifeform: ~those~ orcs moar like ro than like that.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 02:14 asciilifeform: asciilifeform had entirely same 'eyes melt' experience when went to ameri-foodstore for 1st coupla times. today i spend good money at shop that loox exactly like what well-stocked one in sovok did in 1985. and not in 'dazzling variety' where cornsyrupinerrything.
mircea_popescu: bout same. there's no substantial difference, catholics.
asciilifeform: moar than the ameri-sads ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're trained from childhood to atrophy own sense.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah, the places where they have choices
BingoBoingo: I don't think you've seen the crap Latinos eat when left to own devices
mircea_popescu: (and speaking of "luxury", romania's ex-minister woman that the hubbub was about recently, "Rumanas vivían entre lujos" lived in a pretty shitty apt in rohrmoser, which is a sort of... auburndale, i guess ?
asciilifeform: or he could try company of ameri-chix
asciilifeform: that really imho oughta do the trick
asciilifeform: could try eating a bite of 'food' for instance
BingoBoingo: So, how is orc supposed to investigate Miama when they have at most two weeks?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he took iirc the 2 mo., as incidentally described by the 'ru argentina' d00d i linked to last mo. he wrote that ~100% of ru expats go from 'i want to be buried in recoleta' to 'burn it all' in ~2mo.
BingoBoingo: Well, how long did it take mircea_popescu to go from "Imma get citizenship here someday" to "Only coming back with spears" re: Argentina
asciilifeform: so ok, they go to lolmart. and 'dazzled by variety'. but then at some point they gotta buy the 'food' and try put in mouth
asciilifeform: 1 enigma in asciilifeform's head : how the fuck does ~1~ trip to miamimecca not cure
asciilifeform: and from meeting several folx similar to the protagonists thereof
mircea_popescu: i don't dispute there's the occasional tico with some dough. but i'm pretty sure they're saving it up and hitting the disneyworlkd mcdonalds.
asciilifeform: most of what i know re the other non-aboriginal folx in cr , comes from mircea_popescu's casino piece
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i still said hi to evident top ticket items in the street.
mircea_popescu: but judging from the sorry state of bars / strip clubs / nightlife in general, i do not believe so.
asciilifeform: lol i wasn't thinking in the 'fuck sisters' vein but 'import own chix'. ( as iirc mircea_popescu wrote about doing in ro, 'locals unfuckable' or how went the piece )
mircea_popescu: human reproduction is precisely the ONE non closed-cycle. even "self-sufficient" rome invited the occasional sabine over for drinks
asciilifeform: i wouldn't propose to know. i know moar about how to refine petrol than about what mircea_popescus ecosystem like
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of this. if it worked, i'd run it too. what, fuck my sister ?
asciilifeform: maybe they run 'closed cycle'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if they are, they're well hidden. let alone i never ran into one -- wouldn't you expect they'd proposition one of my cunts at some point ?
mircea_popescu: i never saw anyone else there, besides as i said, 40yo middle class wife buying a present or else a ranchero dood (looking just like maduro, most of the time in canadian workshirt and jeans) buying "occasion"
asciilifeform: i thought there were at least a coupla platoons' worth of mircea_popescus in mircea_popescustan
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu single-handedly feeds the tailor tho, situation moar dire than i thought
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno i wanna wear a tophat. imo i'm not quite pearshaped enough for it as of yet.
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this is a great advantage to me (while the fuel lasts, i guess). i'm always the only one in the shop, everyone's always got all the time in the world, "we love to serve", the taylor doesn't even need to measure me because ~he remembers~.
asciilifeform: ( y'know, ~that~ hat, the 'bolix' hat, from old mircea_popescu piece , 'last loom broke' )
asciilifeform: but where to get hat!
mircea_popescu: so, they end up buying plastic pret a porter sacks for whatever they wanna spend, and me an' my remnant friend can discuss sartreria.
asciilifeform: 'feel like a trader'(tm)(r)(ballas)
asciilifeform: they'll pay the 5k for sticker yes. and then 50k for plastic bmw to sit in while drink.
mircea_popescu: he dun want a bottle to enjoy with his private, personal, wholly owned whores. he want a bottle to drink by himself and feel JUST LIKE nigger in x movie.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's a whole lotta aspirational buying and scant else besides.
asciilifeform: picture e.g. cat who prefers that dried liquishit the ameritards feed the poor animals, to tuna
mircea_popescu: that's not even it. whole bunch of tards, "oh, this bottle of champagne is great, $5000". as a factual matter no bottle of fizzy is genuinely worth that much. not anything you'd drink, anyway. what';s worse, if i pour that and random bottom shelf stuff they couldn't tell them apart. half the time can't tell bicarb fizz apart.
asciilifeform: that's the thing you can't buy on 'market' -- sumthing resembling taste. ameri-food seems like a deal to folx who have nfi what even edible means
mircea_popescu: what do the idiots know.
asciilifeform: apparently the miami's working
mircea_popescu: i hope she gets to die with it ; honestly other than me the only other customers are pretentious middle aged women buying 20 bux worth of presents with credit cards and the occasional ranchero getting a funeral suit or w/e.
asciilifeform as sits here, meanwhile pet attempts to replicate ro/sovok cake with ameri-findable ingredients
mircea_popescu: i have doubts it'll survive the passing of the current generation, the girlies in the shop are utterly confused at proceedings that seem only natural to her and me, but what can you do. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah, old networks survive here. egyptian cotton still exists, peruvian cotton still exists, there's a lot going on in the real world, ie, outside us concentration camp.
asciilifeform: afaik aint no way to fool the lit match litmus.
asciilifeform: i'm not even mircea_popescu but spent moar on natural fiber i suspect than on comp
mircea_popescu: somehow, however, this isn't "acoso callejero". dudes poking them to "hey, my dick's here", that never happens. confusion reigns.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they do this weird thing where they poke (literally, with finger) girl walking by me to get her attention then "omg your purse is open!!!". fucking weird as all hell.
mircea_popescu: or the brick better.
mircea_popescu: but no, i dun own any jeans. actually, hit up the local specialist in gentleman items (run by this very nice old lady, whom, when she dies, that is IT for dressing in costa rica). two suits, four extra pairs of pants, four shirts, a tie, a dozen socks and a pair of pijamas. all natural fiber, look fetching on me too. took like a fucking hour, and a brick of cash, but honestly i can't think of a way i could have spent the hour
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'femherd pester', iirc you had a piece where 'see, like chicken, they gotta send SYN, get ACK, coo-coo, how else to know that fox hasn't yet eaten'
asciilifeform: the bois will buy even less tangible brooklyn bridges, e.g. maffs phd
mircea_popescu: (indistinctly, same applies to teh bois. in fact, they have it worse, lotta difficulty involved in securing a cunt you know is there but can't even see)
asciilifeform: i dun display'em for public, cuz wtf, i dun post pictures of the shits i take either
mircea_popescu: i literally believe they feel their cuntal purse is open or somesuch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have all sortsa thing, for use in whoring to keep lights on.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's some kind of psychological comfort somewhere. the same kind of femherd cowsies keep pestering my slaves about how "they gotta get jeans" as pester them about "omg your purse is open"
mircea_popescu: i thought you had apples.
asciilifeform: i dun even know if the chix 'want to feel like miner', i suspect the higher nervous system aint even involved in the sense where they 'want' anyffin but to look-like-neighbour
mircea_popescu: i dunno why i'd wanna feel like a miner, tbh.
asciilifeform: q is re the 'feeling like a trader'(tm)(r)(ballas) simulacrum
asciilifeform: wouldja wear sack cloth mircea_popescu ? if didn't have to for some odd costume party setup ?
mircea_popescu: i guess it took ?
asciilifeform: i dun understand wai someone would spend fat bux to put on sack cloth
mircea_popescu: there's this "stealing nose" kiddy interaction trope from the period, adults pretending to steal kids' noses.
mircea_popescu: only thing i see was literally, they were afraid their cunts will fly off.
asciilifeform: but i'd be lying if i said that i grasp 'kink high'
asciilifeform: this prolly deserves a trilema/kink-high link
mircea_popescu: they weren't lying, they wanted the shit. what for, who knows, but there it is.
asciilifeform never had a jeans and still doesn't, possibly wrong man to comment
asciilifeform: asciilifeform had entirely same 'eyes melt' experience when went to ameri-foodstore for 1st coupla times. today i spend good money at shop that loox exactly like what well-stocked one in sovok did in 1985. and not in 'dazzling variety' where cornsyrupinerrything. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lest their cunts fly off or who knows what's going on in the noggin.
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, they weren't even lying, you should see them, 100% in the shit.
asciilifeform: imho the interesting detail re 1989 was that ~these~ particular 'settlers' were already descended to approx the amerind stage, and sold ~entirely hollow beads.
mircea_popescu: china was net silver importer by the megatonne, for this exact reason, "what fucking miami, keks"
mircea_popescu: there's a ~reason~ miami "pressures" latin ameritards, but period "london" did not in the slightest impress 1880s chinese.
mircea_popescu: one of the earliest documented cases of miami.
asciilifeform: this i'll buy. as surely as the amerinds were doomed to 'buy' the beads.
mircea_popescu: so no, while in theory appealing, this theoretical autarky is not at all how things worked in the practice we're discussing. they had unclosed cycles galore, and there had to be a solution, AND they were in no measure to produce the solution.
mircea_popescu: (and this is why closed borders is a very fucktarded policy -- you obviously WANT to let the idiots out. the only problem commies encountered was that if they opened the borders, the idiots'd have ~stayed~. which is already indicative of the breakage.)
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall a thread where mircea_popescu explained 'stupid wants to go and be with other stupid'. i.e. buncha derps in ro considered 'freedom' to be 'go shopping in vienna'
mircea_popescu: IF your autarky workls, THEREFORE there's no possibility of miami.
mircea_popescu: that's precisely what it is, the measuring of the pressure of a miami nearby.
asciilifeform: how do i distinguish this from the pressure of a miami tho
mircea_popescu: this is the true measure of unclosed cycles, you understand ? if your local currency is dropping, it is always dropping under the pressure of unclosed cycles
asciilifeform: 'dollar is worth 16 rub' thing
asciilifeform: aa like the ru pegging lulz
mircea_popescu: i don;'t mean the black market in goods. i mean the financial black market.
asciilifeform: interesting, btw, detail : stalin, seems, mostly closed eyes to black market. the idjit 'let's actually practice what preach' thing began in earnest with hrusch.
mircea_popescu: yet you can't buy the dollar for 0.00005 btc anywhere. it's the same 0.00025 everywhere.
asciilifeform: i dun think there's a modernistan without massive blackmarket (i.e. comparable in mass to the 'white')
mircea_popescu: by the time they cut the pig, official rate was <20:1, black market was >100:1
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it doesn't. but it is also very easy to measure unclosed cycles : as they leak, the black market widens.