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punkman: ;;later tell asciilifeform my ugly solution to patch conflicts http://dpaste.com/03TADM8 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ty internets. you might not know wtf fractals are, but you certainly spring the goods when it comes to naming strippers.
mircea_popescu: shit chastity i shoulda thoiught oif that!
mircea_popescu: b is the new c ?
mircea_popescu got through ~4 before going to the internet.
mircea_popescu is naming his heroes in this game, and he decided all the thieves get stripper names (for obvious reasons) that start with the letter c.
mircea_popescu: byzantium when it fell to the turks was 4-5 villages lost among pastures surrounded by ancient walls, and american english is similarly a huge complex architecture maitnained by the remnants of a leper colony
mircea_popescu: im not even sure it's any sort of alteration above and beyond simple decay through disuse.
trinque: and that's exactly what we've done, more ways than matter to list
trinque: I believe you've made the point many times in your work that language creation/alteration is *not* for everyone.
trinque: it does seem that the english speaking world's ability to define anything meaningfully is deteriorating, fractals included.
mircea_popescu: as the headcount of romanian kids toiling with gheba during five decades.
mircea_popescu: i don't think as many people lived the bible as a whetstone in their life during the whole history of christianity
mircea_popescu: and of course the lactating mother of all secundary mathematical education in romanian : https://www.scribd.com/doc/178423619/G-Gheba-Exercitii-Si-Probleme-de-Matematica-Pentru-Clasele-v-IX
gribble: Exercitii matematica clasa 3: <http://www.123edu.ro/exercitii-matematica-clasa-3>; Teste de Matematica | Teste la Limba Romana pentru clasele primare: <http://www.123edu.ro/>; 1000 exercitii si probleme. Culegere de matematica pentru clasa I: <http://www.librarie.net/p/197283/1000-exercitii-probleme-Culegere-matematica-pentru-clasa-Adina-Grigore>
mircea_popescu: and so all the books were called "exercitii si probleme" or "probleme si exercitii"
mircea_popescu: In fact, even the term “word problem” is not used in Russia, because the word “problem” usually means a word problem, while non-word problems are called “exercises”. << exactly correct ftr. the difference was even enshrined as such, in the ro equiv of "standards" cca 60s.
trinque: so this will keep the guy going until I find time to write a better IRC handling core
trinque: weechat seems to do better about knowing when to reconnect ☟︎
trinque: gonna fiddle with it a bit, but yeah, I'm getting a little observer going that'll go kick him in the ass when appropriate
trinque: ^ restart test
mod6: I created this basic svg graph map of all vpatches to modified files. lol, thing is huge. ridiculous looking.
mod6: not even close to done yet, but these ascii graphs look kinda neat: http://dpaste.com/3DBXKQX.txt ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (and once you've done that you're right over on cantor's doorstep and so forth. this might even be the best way to even introduce numbers altogether.)
mircea_popescu: (and if you're doing that, pretty much every bright 12 yo kid has been playing mentally with the peano curve while taking a shit and following the tiling, but didn't know it's called that. so you could of course tell him.)
mircea_popescu: (ironically, the concept can be correctly introduced - if one's willing to take the geometric route, and in so doing miss out on most understanding available in the topic - by first explaining what a tangent is and then demaning a closed continuous curve be drawn that allows no tangents. good enough for a bright 12yo, plus minus. but otherwise, fractals are of analytical rather than geometrical interest.)
mircea_popescu: and with this observation, the world as observed suddenly makes significantly more sense.
mircea_popescu: see, this is the problem. we go around like we're all people and shit. but then some of us go home to where we know what fractals are, and some of us go to whatever that is, where they don't. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: jesus fucking christ no english speaker can produce a definition of this concept.
mircea_popescu: doctor in eating roadkill, this douglas.
mircea_popescu: From: Doctor Douglas Subject: Re: Fractals Hi Boris. The key idea in the definition of fractal is "self-similarity". What this means is that the object looks the same no matter what power magnifying glass you use to view it.
mircea_popescu: From: Boris Subject: Fractals What is the definition of a fractal?
mircea_popescu: "An object whose parts, at infinitely many levels of magnification, appear geometrically similar to the whole. Fractals are used in the design of compact antennas and for computer modeling of natural-looking structures like clouds and trees."
mircea_popescu: "A fractal is a figure with repeating patterns containing shapes that are like the whole but of different sizes throughout."
mircea_popescu: in what fucking alternate universe may a definition include the word "or"
mircea_popescu: "A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale." via en.wikipedia. or in fucking definitions, THIS IS ALLOWED NOW!
mircea_popescu: not to mention that the number 1, as well as the number 0 and the number 78 are "self-similar" on all scales, in a technical sense or not.
mircea_popescu: the geometric notion of the point, and the geometric notion of a line, and the geometric notion of a plane, and the geometric notion of wolfram's mother impaled on a triple cheeseburger ALL SATISFY THIS DEFINITION ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Fractal -- from Wolfram MathWorld mathworld.wolfram.com/Fractal.html‎ A fractal is an object or quantity that displays self-similarity, in a somewhat technical sense, on all scales. The object need not exhibit exactly the same structure ..." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but perhaps the spanish speakers are retarded, right ?
mircea_popescu: "fractal Definiciones web Un fractal es un objeto geométrico cuya estructura básica, fragmentada o irregular, se repite a diferentes escalas. El término fue propuesto por el matemático Benoît Mandelbrot en 1975 y deriva del Latín fractus," blablabla.
mircea_popescu: but since toom mentioned the fractal problem, let us consult the web. because the web knows shit, right ? all human knowledge, accessible to everyone etc, right ?
mircea_popescu: "The authors of “standards” want to reform American mathematical education, but actually only aggravate its main shortcoming: vain ambitions and contempt for consistent, systematic and thorough study." << this is a societal problem. Obama is not an accident, but an archetype.
mircea_popescu: (i am not even all that keen on toom's obviously very geometric take on fractals. they're an analytic construct, which yes can be graphed, like any other function. you don't need "dimensions", you need numeric theory.)
mircea_popescu: if you want fractals, first go away and get rich i mean, figure out what a number is, then come back
mircea_popescu: but yes, the man has a point. fractals aren't for everyone. just like bitcoin isn't for everyone.
mircea_popescu: "I asked several school teachers who were enthusiastic about teaching fractals to define a fractal and none of them mentioned the idea of dimension, least defined it. Usually they emphasized “repeating patterns”. When I asked why they were not satisfied with wall-paper, they took offence." << yes, because who needs to take a breather and think when they could take offence instead and flail!
pete_dushenski: "it's the game ~within~ the game, bro"
mircea_popescu: "The idea to teach fractals in school has already found many supporters. (Everything is possible for those who are not competent enough to understand how difficult it is.)" << heh. "But fractals are cool man, like the universe's all connected and everything"
mircea_popescu: it is, however, very inefficient (ie, costs a lot more per joule than pretty much any alternative)
mircea_popescu: the utility of the process in various industrial lines is due to the relative high heat, readily controllable total energy and relatively low latency.
mircea_popescu: the idea to use this as a heat source is older than the aeroplane. i had perfectly functional schematics in books published in the fucking 60s.
mircea_popescu: so : some chemical reactions are strongly exothermic (they give out heat). aluminum salts chief among them. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 03:24:57; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: you around ? can you educate me on what the nytimes is referring to here : "The schematics, prosecutors said, revealed the design of a device known as a pocket heater. The equipment is used in semiconductor research, and Dr. Xi had signed an agreement promising to keep its design a secret."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-09-2015#1270990 << this is fucking ridiculous. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: under the guard of some old prune too dessicated to fuck them in the first place. Not waste MY fucking time with it.
mircea_popescu: Oh, god. Such pain and suffering. When I took usian slavegirls, attempts to discuss art and philosophy and so forth quickly floundered over a basic inability to remember sentences and build logic trees, which resulted in beatings and many tearful hours spent over grammatical analysis of sentences. Something they should have spend their 12th and 13th year of life on, back before anyone could possibly want to fuck them,
mircea_popescu: "When I came to America, I taught several classes of problem solving and started to appreciate much more the basic education, because my new students dramatically lacked it. They understood advanced ideas but floundered in algebraic transformations, which turned solution of interesting problems into painful struggle with basics."
mircea_popescu: more million man marches plox, clearly they fix problems.
mircea_popescu: thank you mustachjioed nigger what's his name, you totally helped those people
mircea_popescu: blacks are doing worse in 2015 than they did in 1965.
pete_dushenski: http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/science-knowledge/ << "The median was eight correct answers out of 12 (mean 7.9). The data show that adults with higher education levels are more likely to answer questions about science correctly. Men score an average of 8.6 out of 12 correct answers, compared with women's 7.3 correct answers.Whites score a mean of 8.4 items out of 12 correct, compared with 7.1 among Hispanics an
mircea_popescu: what's the fun in this ?
mircea_popescu: i mean for fucks sake, what's even the point of knowing math like that
mircea_popescu: " E.g., my graduate students in differential geometry could calculate quite hard integrals to know the area or the length of a curve but were not able to answer the question what the geometric sense of the roots of the quadratic equation x^2 − 2Hx + K = 0 is, where H and K are the average and the Gaussian curvature of a surface."
mircea_popescu: lord have mercy... what DO they do ?
mircea_popescu: trinomial. Most American students whom I ever met were not even aware of most of these facts.
mircea_popescu: sum of roots equals −b/a and that their product equals c/a and to use these facts to factorize the
mircea_popescu: children to derive the formula for roots of a quadratic equation ax2 + bx + c = 0 , to prove that the
mircea_popescu: function in a rather complete manner. In particular it was obligatory for all Russian schools to teach
mircea_popescu: anything too advanced. Let me give an example. When I was in high school, we studied the quadratic
mircea_popescu: because TIMSS followed the anti-theoretical bias of American educators. By “theory” I don’t mean
mircea_popescu: I think that the real situation in American mathematical education is even worse than TIMSS shows
punkman: oh the israelis are also on kickstarter
punkman: they did this scam on kickstarter already
punkman: "does not need physical contact with the substance being tested because it uses a beam of light in what is known as Near Infrared Spectroscopy."
assbot: Israeli mini-scanner tells what's in food, drink or pills ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6EdRV )
mircea_popescu: http://phys.org/news/2015-09-israeli-mini-scanner-food-pills.html on the vaguely interesting fishwrapper front.
mircea_popescu: "i used to be an entrepreneur but then i took a fatter to the knee"
mircea_popescu: holy shit this fatass notion of equality for some things only.
mircea_popescu: it's that they do not show up for work, they get the same per hour pay (which on the strength of that alone they should not, for the record, as i'm not paying the same an hour the guy who works 16 hours and the gal that works 6.5) and so logically at the end of the year they get less.
mircea_popescu: it's not that they show up to work and still take home less money.
mircea_popescu: women ACTUALLY TAKE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OFF!
mircea_popescu: eh the fucking bullshit.
mircea_popescu: "4. You think it’s pretty unfair that women effectively work from 4 November until the end of the year for free because of the gender pay gap; and that female managers “work for free” for nearly two hours a day; and that the pay gap is even wider for women of colour and disabled women."
pete_dushenski: Bingo_VACAY: i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're away atm and that there's no point in sending you the same piece
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell cazalla qntra for ya :) http://dpaste.com/3A6Y046.txt
asciilifeform: note the attached 'civil forfeiture' action on last page.
asciilifeform: but that is not what he was accused of
asciilifeform: i can see how they might have tried to nail him for misappropriation of pentagon money
assbot: Temple Physics Chair Charged With Passing Tech to China | News | Philadelphia Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Okti6i )
asciilifeform: http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/05/22/temple-physics-chair-charged-with-passing-tech-to-china << has the indictment.
assbot: Government Drops Charges Against Chinese-Born Temple Prof | News | Philadelphia Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oktcvo )
asciilifeform: http://www.phillymag.com/news/2015/09/11/temple-professor-charges-dropped << has the document
pete_dushenski: ok ima write this up for qntra then
pete_dushenski: "using too much concrete and trying to bankrupt the great state" vs. "using too little concrete and jeopardising the security of the great state"
assbot: Logged on 30-04-2015 22:04:14; mircea_popescu: you know, the "wrecker" who was "trying to make the train tracks run down faster"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-04-2015#1117127 << as in this ☝︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the overall moral of the story is more interesting - expect a generalized 'spymania' in usa; accusations of 'wrecking' will become a regular thing.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: niche thing.