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mod6: It gives me a bit
to chew on here.
mod6: Well, maybe
this is good. Nice little chat about all of
this.
mircea_popescu: so
the obvious idea was, "well, produce
the seed, ready for next
time".
mircea_popescu: perfect opportunity
to invent a whole new "fest". but -- need
the seed.
mod6: I
think with some steering, maybe we can get
this
thing back on
track.
mircea_popescu: if anyone recalls, at
that
time
the intended republic-sponsored kegger party at
the site of some anti-usg rebellion died over portland's apparent failure
to produce beer & sluts under ben_vulpes 's direction.
☟︎ mod6: Well, when I'm done, I'd like
to discuss it more with you.
mod6: I'm gonna keep reading, I'm about 60% of
the way
through
the
trilogy.
mircea_popescu: (in fact, for
the sake of
transparency,
the idea i quoted on dpb's blog, from 2016, came exactly as a "hmm, i wonder why foundation is stuck, could alternative path be explored maybe ?".)
mircea_popescu: so it didn't seem,
to period mp,
that far fetched a notion.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the correct way
to get one of
those is
to press into service a 60yo lawyer rather
than a 30yo computer guy. but in
the early stages of bitcoin
there was an all-pervasive notion
that "we can do anything just because we wanna, we got
the range, and
the machinery for change, we're uprooting banks and governments and everything in path!!!"
mod6: The book is starting
to help me, strange as it might seem,
to see how all of
this might go.
mircea_popescu: the foundation as such would have been, in its functional extension, a sort of secular
trishop.church -- exactly like a foundation works, get people
to give you money, build a golf course,
that sort of anchoring.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, sure, "dark age minimization" is a legitimate way
to look at republic (though not necessarily at foundation) from a historian-of-culture perspevtive.
mod6: You've got a vision, sometimes for me
to see it,
takes some
thinking, some reading. I'm kinda slow, but I
tend
to get
there with
time.
mod6: That's on my list,
too.
mod6: Not
that it's all very related, but I can draw some similarities between
The Foundation, and what
The Bitcoin Foundation ~should~ be.
mod6: I'm starting
to make some sense of what "a stanford" means (when you say it).
mod6: Yeah, I'm reading
that book, finally.
mod6: Have you read
The Foundation?
mod6: I posted my response
to your Lordship article before you made me realize about my retardation of
the irc-server/network
thing.
mod6: Well, if you don't
think it's any sort of problem
to see if I can somehow get back on
the right
track with
the republic, I'm willing
to let it go at
that, wait and see until next year.
mod6: But with a lack of serious
time and focus, it's difficult
to get
there, right now anyway. I don't want
to get neg-rated if
think continue
the same way for me
this year.
mircea_popescu: to
the concrete part : i don't expect your ratings are in any kind of danger, chiefly because i don't know
that anyone expects anything specific of you as it is.
the original "so
take some
time off" can still stand as such, and next april you can come off
the lordship and all
that.
mod6: it's not
the old days of yore, and I've got
to get better, I've got
to improve.
mod6: But, I
think you're right.
The republic is getting harder
to interface with.
mod6: heh, well, it could just be, as you said earlier, maybe I'm just braindamaged. lol, I probably am, I've been hit in
the head enough.
mircea_popescu: some certainly do not. it's not
THAT big of a deal ; but i also don't
think
time per se has anything whatever
to do with it, or ever could.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to come
the length of
this circle :
the point of
the republic, as an intelectual construct, more generally
than mere ideology, is
that it'll slowly but surely ratchet into view any one participant's vulnerability. some people find
this extremely interesting, perhaps as interesting as
to fundamentally change
the meaning of life, "i could never live without
this".
mod6: yeah,
the irc-server
thing was a good example. With
the foundation, I feel like I very well executed what was in
the charter. As far as
the outreach, I
think I had a hard
time with
that part.
mircea_popescu: but in
terms of substance, rather
than representation.
mod6: I just started "doing
things", as opposed
to
thinking about it properly.
mod6: I mean, like duh, why would I have
thought
that making an irc-network was a good idea?
mircea_popescu: well, so what'd be
the significant difference between "i ran a foundation doing no outreach by means of
this publishing now and again on
this obscure cvasi-blog" and "i aim
to run an irc network doing no outreach by means of running
this ircd here" ?
mod6: And for what it's worth, during
that
time, and since, I've done a lot of reflection,
trying
to adjust myself
to
the republic. Being in a hurry all
the
time, lack of
time, seems
to make me not
think
through what I'm doing, or
the bigger picture.
mod6: I'm pretty hard on myself, I'd like
to
think anyway.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> did you
take some
time off
to change, or did you give us some
time off maybe we come
to our senses ? << Very much
the former, I'd like
to
think it's not my way
to put my problems onto others or place blame onto others.
mircea_popescu: because it is perhaps
the case
that
the point of
that discussion (and, concidentally,
the reason it discussed percents rather
than scalars) was
that dedication, rather
than actual amounts, were at issue.
mircea_popescu: did you
take some
time off
to change, or did you give us some
time off maybe we come
to our senses ?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-03 15:05 mircea_popescu: shinohai your only available position here is "here is what i now understand
to have been doing wrong, and shan't be fucking doing again, as exemplified by
this excessively costly self sacrifice". not fucking "hey guise, buddy-buddy, are you gonna change
to fit me in
THIS
time or do i come back whenever later
try again".
a111: Logged on 2019-03-19 22:46 mircea_popescu: why is
that ?
mod6: This is pretty hard
to keep up with, leaving me further and further behind.
mod6: And with all
the other
things
that I've got going, I'm putting in like 10-20% per day, max.
mod6: Something of
that nature.
mod6: Because like we discussed before, some paraphrasing "man puts in 20% of
time is 20% of a man".
mod6: I'd rather protect my rating,
than be on
the lordship list.
mod6: Well, I
think my lack of overall
time
to consume all
things
TMSR leaves me at a disadvantage. And I care about it very much, and I seem
to just keep getting it wrong. I don't want
to be a barrier or a problem. And I'm not sure when I'll have all
the
time
that it
takes, or
the
time
that I desire.
mod6: But everytime I
try
to climb, out I go right back in. I'm sort of, stuck in a nasty loop.
mod6: So anyway, I get ancy,
trying
to keep up, do helpful
things, get out of
the ditch, so
to speak.
mod6: (This is fine for
the moment)
mod6: For whatever reason, I've been a bit off balance since February of '18 -- maybe just
took some huge risks
that didn't quite go my way. And since our discussion where I realized, as well as you wall,
that I just don't have enough
time
to keep up in here; I
think
this is impacting my everything when it comes
to
TMSR.
mircea_popescu: well yes, but if you want
the conversation format
this is
the venue ; would you rather article-format ?
mod6: This is hard, so I'm
trying
to put it all down here, so bear with me.
mod6: I've been doing a lot of
thinking recently, going over our converstaion back from November 11th, other conversations as well. After
taking
that month or so off (was it 6 weeks?), I
tried
to ease myself back into
TMSR~ related
things, but I haven't been very successful.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-14 15:24 mircea_popescu: what is so wrong with saying "these people hate us, because we suck, how about we
try something else instead of sucking even harder ???"
mircea_popescu: i have little faith in
the separation, and especially seeing how widespread &2> inanities are.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah,
there's no
tools
to be
tolerant here, even if
there were room for it ideologically. halt it is.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-09 01:21 mircea_popescu: which is JUST AS BROKEN BY DESIGN. ctrl-d will end a file AND kill a
terminal, but not
touch a
task. ctrl-c will kill n levels of
task depth, as in her example, FOUR.
phf: it's a bug in vdiff
that it produces in
this case a malformed vpatch, since we standardized on ascii only.
phf: mircea_popescu:
trying
to figure it out right now, i've realized
that it might be useful
phf: asciilifeform: some configuration of gnat refuses
to compile utf source code,
that's how i originally discovered it
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i dunno about esier, but more productive, you get indices
too.
mircea_popescu: easy
to make :
take file as is, hash, put file
through force-8bit-unsetter, hash again. compare and report.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where
the fuck are you pissing unicode quotes into your
text!
phf: asciilifeform: was about
to paste, also i'm not sure if you know but you have a handful of utf-8 vpatches