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mircea_popescu: or a gun or a car
mircea_popescu: try getting some cough medicine.
mircea_popescu: this because dollars are shit.
mircea_popescu: yes, actually, you do.
mircea_popescu: so stop trying to trade that shit for bitcoin and nobody cares about your id anymore.
mircea_popescu: your DOLLARS however, ARE a financial instrument.
mircea_popescu: it's game gold.
mircea_popescu: that'd be because it's not a financial instrument.
mircea_popescu: heh. not list the locations. these people just won't fucking learn what open means already
mircea_popescu: "We have temporarily limited transactions in some locations, and we apologize for the inconvenience. "
mircea_popescu: <bitcollapse> and bitinstant is now nothing more then a bad paypal it requires absurd ID requirements <<< details ?
mircea_popescu: <D
mircea_popescu: for srs.
mircea_popescu: !t m ^oix
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: yeah. so you know... accounting gotta meet internet at some point.
mircea_popescu: well wtf.
mircea_popescu: a year.
mircea_popescu: and they will amortise over...
mircea_popescu: these I OWN
mircea_popescu: anyway, next month i'll charge domain names
mircea_popescu: etfc.
mircea_popescu: if i do guarantee usage it makes no sense to pretend im paying monthly, and it actually helps his cash flow a ton to pay him upfront
mircea_popescu: if i don't guarantee usage the provider won't open new boxes of gear for me.
mircea_popescu: wherein all sorts of weird constrainsts operate. like, nobody wants used gear. everyone wants to own geaer. nobody wants to pay for anything.
mircea_popescu: yeah but the shit is, hosting is this complex fucking industry
mircea_popescu: for a number of reasons. i just don't think they actually work.
mircea_popescu: now, i agree this is at least attackable from a "standard accounting" perspective,
mircea_popescu: so that's the concept.
mircea_popescu: what's the value of the company next month ? 50 + whatever it fished or 50 + whatever it fished + 50 * 11 / 12 ?
mircea_popescu: well let's look at it. company has 100 btc. it buys "the right to use a boat for 1 year" for 50.
mircea_popescu: yes, it does already exist
mircea_popescu: tyvm. i'm trying to reinvent the wheel deliberately. both gaap and irfs suck.
mircea_popescu: as to the relevance :it's not just taxes. why should a shareholder that buys now get the benefit of an arbitrary charge for 1 year ?
mircea_popescu: so the poring is much appreciated
mircea_popescu: one of the reasons im doing this is to sound out some sort of accounting/reporting scheme for nonzero asset companies
mircea_popescu: well it may grow to matter in time
mircea_popescu: (i mean it matches the amortisation just fine*)
mircea_popescu: no but i mean, is there something lost ?
mircea_popescu: it matches the amortisation just whine what are you whining about!
mircea_popescu: these btc can't be taken as a one time charge, as they reflect a multi-period thing
mircea_popescu: ok, here's the concept. i spent some BTC.
mircea_popescu: right
mircea_popescu: of course i can resell it. it's mine ><
mircea_popescu: yes i can
mircea_popescu: i own it, under a certain title.
mircea_popescu: well in this sense the house you own is not "yours" as you only have fee simple on it.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: well arguably you can touch myserver
mircea_popescu: davout yes it would be, at the cost of making a more extensive account plan than "cash", "type 1" and "type 2"
mircea_popescu: some others do not or not necessarily. these are intangible.
mircea_popescu: the rationale behind that separation between "tangibles" and "intangibles and goodwill" was that some items have a resale value. these are tangible.
mircea_popescu: so i have a special knapsack where i keep the 0 value items ?
mircea_popescu: well it is... for a year.
mircea_popescu: actually... they probably end up sold to the government
mircea_popescu: they go on to run shared servers or w/e loosened out boxes do in this life.
mircea_popescu: benkay yeah. because i don't want to be stuck with one year odl boxes.
mircea_popescu: the later
mircea_popescu: and what's "forever" mean.
mircea_popescu: that sounds a little nutty. what's leasing in this approach ?
mircea_popescu: yes ?
mircea_popescu: cause i got it for a year.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: and if you liquidate in 6 months you have a server worth x/2
mircea_popescu: because if you liquidate today you have a server worth x
mircea_popescu: i could prorate, i just don't see that i'd have to.
mircea_popescu: if its after a full period it can;'t be reported in the respective period
mircea_popescu: as in, amortisation only after a FULL period
mircea_popescu: because i'm of the school that the respective charge belongs in month 2 and is reported in month 2
mircea_popescu: actually let's switch back to english, ppl will be trying to translate your frogspeak for no avail
mircea_popescu: pque amortissements au fin d'un interval non ?
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: was the idea anyway
mircea_popescu: each getting 150 and going home
mircea_popescu: then B brings 100 btc in, gets his 100 shares, and now a 300 btc corp is divided to 200 shares
mircea_popescu: if at the end the fishery is worth 200 btc,
mircea_popescu: simple example : A and B meet to make a fishery. A contributes 100 BTC gets 100 shares, B is going to fish, gets 100 sws at 1.
mircea_popescu: if share value doubles management realises half that gain, investors the other half
mircea_popescu: well, if share value drops management has nothing.
mircea_popescu: how do you fiugre ?
mircea_popescu: i imagine exactly the contrary.
mircea_popescu: as IPO issued yes.
mircea_popescu: so the issuing of sws to managemend hedges against this situation you described
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: now what's management to hedge re its 10 issued shares ?
mircea_popescu: ok. company A has 100 shares issued, of which managwement owns 10. company A has 100 shares issued as sws to mnanagement
mircea_popescu: well, play out an example for me.
mircea_popescu: well... one of the advantages of management getting ssws in the first place.
mircea_popescu: which kinda hedges the entire thing
mircea_popescu: management holds a shitton of warrants in the first place
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i did include a disclosure, so.
mircea_popescu: that yes.
mircea_popescu: this has to be accounted as this is the point of accountingh
mircea_popescu: it could be argued that a company with issued sws is worth less than the same w/o having issued them
mircea_popescu: there may be nothing to provision in that perspective, however,
mircea_popescu: ok :)
mircea_popescu: whenever they come due they just issue more dollarsd and pay
mircea_popescu: basically, the us govt bonds are in fact us govt stock warrants
mircea_popescu: the former.