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mircea_popescu: dude... a girl that weighs what 5 weigh costs what 10 cost.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so how do the fatties survive ? << Two years of leaching off family and then "blackface"
mircea_popescu: so how do the fatties survive ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i would expect that probably changed. << Only really changed in healthcare and only in a way that ascii must eat shoes for a year to be lumpen
asciilifeform: of having any inclination to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are proper lumpens
mircea_popescu: no other explanation for all the third gender survival observed in the fields.
mircea_popescu: i would expect that probably changed.
asciilifeform: recall tlp's piece re: how a history of normal employment is more or less a kiss of death in consideration for 'disability' pension
mircea_popescu: well, people of the nordic system sorta-expect nordic system.
asciilifeform: folks outside of usadom rarely know just how much the handouts, 'safety nets', and other socialisms ~strictly~ exclude the non-lumpens.
BingoBoingo: Not really, Hulk movies are the super hero movies that don't make money
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's wrong with strychnine << Occasionally results in angry hulk rather than cadaver
mircea_popescu: cheaper than cyanide.
mircea_popescu: even with the very steam-punk techno-nazis cyanide was not for everyone.
BingoBoingo: Prolly, but Michelle Obola will likely be president if there still is one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: by the time it is 'for me', it will consist of a complimentary cyanide
asciilifeform: it is strictly, strictly for registered members of the lumpen castes.
mircea_popescu: they get you for insurance fraud on top of whatever if you file later and it turns out you had moneys.
mircea_popescu: if you've not filed tax returns for past coupla years, you're still eligible
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, you don't have to actually file.
asciilifeform: as in, if i get sacked i get to starve long before could ever show up as 'low earner'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understand that 'low earner' per usg is somebody with WHOLE YEAR OF TAX RECEIPT proving such.
mircea_popescu: it is 2.9 gb for the love of fuck.
BingoBoingo: The obamacare new medicaid rules keep wealth tests for the retired and prevent incomes above X from medicaid, but low earners of nearly any net wealth get new medicaid
mircea_popescu: let's play the "guess the size of today's apache log for trilema".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I've done the chapter 7 thing myself about 5 years ago.
mircea_popescu: the last "normal american" that had any value left in him was ambushed on a highway cca 2003.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah. Only for the retired. Incompletely employed eligible by default nao.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we're talking employees here.
asciilifeform: all of the 'turkey-buying dollars' are to be vacuumed up.
asciilifeform: e.g., if you had title to a house, it is to be sold
BingoBoingo: By "states" often happy to pay deficit
mircea_popescu: which the feds love, let the state be bled dry.
BingoBoingo: Recent corporate medicine where available has been move employees to medicaid so state feels the pain instead.
mircea_popescu: or, to quote an anonymous derp, "are we comfortable with regulation introduced by a guy named bob ?"
mircea_popescu: but apparently the situation is degrading and every entry level project manager can do this now.
mircea_popescu: and this is the main problem here : for ~20 years, the president was a sort of priviledged class, allowed to burn pieces off the country.
asciilifeform: often this process takes the form of 'we will pay, but for amputation rather than treatment'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> often enough, 'insurer' (misnomer, these are not insurance co. in the traditional sense) will find a way to avoid paying << This many times "insurer" is or was payment handler for actual business's healthcare claims
mircea_popescu: the societal cost of that cocky 20yo handpuppet is comparable to what obama costs.
asciilifeform: or at the very least leave the diseased chump with $maxint bill
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> cazalla insurance has no option but to pay. << WIth the added danger that until Obola care came to all sorts of present evil could be vetoed by actual businesses
mircea_popescu: as a result, they'll be billed for a few millions, and react to it, gouging insurance prices by a few billion in a half decade.
asciilifeform: often enough, 'insurer' (misnomer, these are not insurance co. in the traditional sense) will find a way to avoid paying
mircea_popescu: understand the evil of a 3 party system. the user has no say. the doctor decides if it's needed or not, doesn't care about the cost.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is demonstrably and abundantly false
mircea_popescu: cazalla insurance has no option but to pay.
asciilifeform: cazalla: 'buy' is a flexible concept in usa. if you have 'health insurance', it gets milked out to its theoretical maximum, and then you pay (if you have lines of credit, will max'em out naturally)
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well consider before the price spike in question med was going for $13.50 per pill in the US and about $0.035 elsewhere
asciilifeform: cazalla: this normally requires - at the minimum - multiple years of tax receipts proving indigence
cazalla: so what benefit is there in raising the price if no end user can actually buy it?
mircea_popescu: granted it's a very difficult task because the issue is medicine (which is wordy by default) and the proposed jump somewhat distant.
asciilifeform: cazalla: you get ZIP from usg unless you are part of the blessedly indigent class
cazalla: do americans actually pay such prices or is it simply a case where end user pays $8.80 (as we do here) and the goverment/tax payer is fucked for the rest of it?
BingoBoingo: General question, did http://qntra.net/2015/09/fda-regulatory-overreach-allows-price-gouging/ seem to accurately capture the hypocrisy?
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I wish mpoe-pr was still there, btctalk was worth reading then. << I think most people here value her health too much. When she left the Fillipenis wasn't so bad. Now it is pretty much all aids
asciilifeform wishes there existed some other typesafe, statically typed language usable on a microcontroller
shinohai: I wish mpoe-pr was still there, btctalk was worth reading then.
asciilifeform: in the bad way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that in a good way ? like, licking it on a cone ?
mircea_popescu: lol. btw, anyone remember the rubber duckling incident ?
mircea_popescu: eh, rubber duckling's more than the average dick.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Prolly 10 oz or so. Less than a steak but more than the average dick.
BingoBoingo: I've seen the nick brg444 before though. Fuck you brg444 get in assWoT already. Also don't think I didn't see you shilling for 21's Po-Po plug.
mircea_popescu: how big was this bar, like obama standing ?
mircea_popescu: "bar of silver" and big somehow don't go together. what's silver, like a pizza an ounce ?
BingoBoingo: I think him or someone with a similar name tried to sell a big bar-o-silver for LTC
mircea_popescu: well other than that who the fuck cares.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is the guy even here ? << My vague recollection is back in the day he wasn't an MPOE-PR fan. Usagi critic sure but though MPOE was just a differnet evil. Then again I am drunk early and memory flawed.
mircea_popescu: but i doubt i'll be doing more tardstalk.
mircea_popescu: if anyone still got an account somehow, see if he maybe wants to write for qntra ? i could read more of that
mircea_popescu: is the guy even here ?
mircea_popescu: For very good reasons, XT got #REKT, and all the pretentious undergraduate Marxist pomo jargon in the universe won't help it be anything but a colossal failure."
mircea_popescu: Oh right, the 1MB cap is exactly like slavery days. Got it. That's not offensive at all. And neither are your first world armchair claims of resistance against censorship. You and your exorbitantly privileged critique of theymos' moderation wouldn't last a day in China, where real censorship exists.
mircea_popescu: "Shackles of the BIP?"
mircea_popescu: To the proposal of "XT?" the community overwhelmingly responded "NACK" (cite: xtnodes.com). So regardless of your fact-free preference-tailored extreme minority opinion, the debate is over, and was won on inherency take-outs + presumption (not to mention solvency and the a priori 'FUCK HEARN AND THE CORE DEV HE RODE IN ON' deontological imperative).
mircea_popescu: "Sure, go ahead and "challenge gatekeepers" with your TOR blacklists and awesome ~0% of network mining power.
mircea_popescu: i haven't read bitcointalk in like years, but hey, i tend to read stuff people link here. and in that thread, iCEBREAKER dude is fucking breaking 'em.
assbot: PM calls for it to become 'un-Australian' to disrespect women: $100 million commitment on domestic violence - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LxD83U )
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/make-it-unaustralian-to-disrespect-women-turnbull-100-million-dv/6800330 <<< "All violence against women begins with disrespecting women," Mr Turnbull told reporters at the launch in Melbourne.
assbot: pizzaface18 comments on ELI5 21Inc. (part 2): Why do we panic when mining pools hit 51%, but support 21Inc.'s inevitable 51% IoT-based pool? (Since it's "Not about the mining", it's about microtransactions mined for free by 21Inc51%Pool^TM?) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LxD97X )
mircea_popescu is tempted to start whorehouse, call it people's house./
mod6: The National Razor had a better ring to it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gasenwagen! << Tis the People's Wagen nao
mod6: no arguments there
mod6: well, arguably there are a variety of classes involved there. but you can make that happen with just the standard development kit, no special imports of packages are required.
shinohai: I'm willing to bet you need 13 libraries just to echo "hello world" in java.
mod6: so i had to kinda make my own magic there. was simple with an added flag + check.
mod6: including that there is no actual way to have an else case for a for loop in perl. lol.
mod6: walking my way through alf's toposort taught me a few things though.
mod6: so maybe someday, we'll have the gherkin with a python backend.
mod6: i mean cucumber with perl is better than with java or ruby. might be nice with python, but again, that's not exactly my thing yet.
shinohai will test cukes as necessary ....
mod6: but shouldn't be too bad.
mod6: oh, and I was gonna add a bunch of cucumber tests to exercise the V code to ensure correctness. haven't even started that part yet.
mod6: I also am considering adding a "pull" or "sync" method. something to check your local vpatches against whats available at the foundation.
mod6: i perhaps wanna touch on some colorization of the graphviz graph nodes depending on the signatory, we'll see.
mod6: working on some cleanup. toposort seems to be doing what it should be, press is testing well so far (manual tests), currently writing the help info etc.
shinohai: How's that V coming mod6