Framedragger: mircea_popescu: right, will get it done. i had started on it, got sidetracked by the python encoding problem, and the got sidetracked by other stuff. need to re-trace, and will first do the archival bit.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just fyi archive.is fails and/or timeouts on some pages

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: display/processing separation is why i mentioned http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1570743 ☝︎

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (syn flood suspicion because sockets don't respond with anything, even when possible to establish tcp connection. and yes ping does seem to work.)

Framedragger: ben_vulpes: i'll think about this next week. it may be that it's not really needed, yeah - i agree. and integration of things such as ssh server banners with phuctor keys is something that asciilifeform said he'd be up to do on phuctor's db itself..

Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, less so visualizations than easy ways to query and analyse data. but, i agree with mircea_popescu and yourself that concrete merits are to be discussed. maybe it's not needed.

Framedragger: and yeah, i guess one should go with svgs, mike_c used <path> and it was fine

Framedragger: note to self/logs, check https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Streaming_Replication

Framedragger: ben_vulpes: oh hmm, i've never used it, very interesting and thanks for the pointer

Framedragger: mod6: regarding visualizations, i'm just curious, did you have something particular in mind, as in, how do the svg visualizations at http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mod6&to=mircea_popescu and http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mod6/ look to the eye?

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: the first 'portal' would allow users to run read-only sql queries.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yes, if by pipe you mean, bulk-import into VPS, not torture phuctor's own db 24/7.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: by db i mean a postgresql populated with phuctor data.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: plox to review: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/nz8wn/?raw=true

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: asking for advice - should i include a note that should additional hosting resources be needed during the 12 month period, an additional grant (it'd include supporting data of course) may be sought? just to be transparent?

Framedragger: i see that http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html doesn't have an 'owner' field - can sometimes be a useful thing, no?

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: okay.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: mkay will do.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i plan to set up a "phuctor results investigation dashboard". (iirc trinque or someone planned to do sth of the kind, but since this overlaps with the "check distinct banner amounts etc", i may as well do it properly). nothing fancy so as to keep it actually deliverable, but i have a plan.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, ok - i guess my point was that it'd be very horrible, but i suppose the chief horror is in the learned-unthinking-ness of masses. the rest is just aftereffects

Framedragger: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Christmas_(Black_Mirror) - episodes are disjoint in terms of narrative and actors, and are stand-alone.)

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm. okay, i guess i get that this implies a wholly different approach.

Framedragger: !~later tell gabriel_laddel fd at mkj dot lt , gpg fingerprint E2DF 986D 58A0 D387 6BA1 65FA CC05 10AA FD8A F4B7

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: it is actually nice to consider that all that paypal moneys i received for bitcoin in -otc were not chargeback'd. it's a nice feeling. but i suppose that's chiefly because 1) i hadn't done that many transactions, and 2) amounts were low...

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah, those logs are instructive. much thanks

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: btw, i later wasn't much in touch and didn't follow your fallout with nanotube much. maybe there's a trilema article tho?..

Framedragger: !!rate mircea_popescu 4 Look, I haven't made up my mind, but he is a very constructive terrorist.

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i checked when gpg keys were registered

Framedragger: gabriel_laddel: currently UK. originally from LT. will prob be in latter during summer

Framedragger: mircea_popescu: well you did rate me "old timer" at first :p

Framedragger: interestingly, i believe that i first discovered this insane asylum by reading loper-os (presumably same as gabriel_laddel). it appealed to me straight away because i could relate on a purely technical level (inasmuch as a youngling can 'relate', etc.) [also, registered nanotube's WoT key before mircea_popescu muaha]