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mircea_popescu: kinda like spam, these people.
mircea_popescu: Do not mention how their use was pioneered by the Israeli Air Force in 1948, and how they were used by the US Air Force in Vietnam in Operation Inferno in 1968. Keep repeating, “barrel bombs, barrel bombs” and stating with a straight face that the Syrian regime is using them “against its own people.” Against its own people. Against its own people. Against its own people.
mircea_popescu: 1) Keep mentioning the barrel bombs.
ben_vulpes: search'll need redoing on top of the wot as well.
mircea_popescu: and strangly there wasn't a reddit icrapple dedicated to mocking the funbux.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 06:38:13; mircea_popescu: o btw, do you have a reddit acct that's aged enough to make subreddits ?
mircea_popescu: 2009, back when apple istore was worth less than a bar.
mircea_popescu: http://www.streamingcolour.com/blog/2009/03/09/the-numbers-post-aka-brutal-honesty/ ah, the industree five years ago.
ascii_field: (well perhaps not ~any~ - but certainly it is more of a thing than the 'multi-coloured pill' business in gringolandia)
ascii_field: stalin has never been cooler than today.
mircea_popescu: "It's an interesting piece of info and it resonates a lot with the issues and choices I and to make with my game early this year. I can see how those numbers could be discouraging but I kind of agree with Sven, they are not that bad."
ascii_field: 'I can actually remember when Looney Toons was yanked in favor of more PC Barney the dinosaur bullshit. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable. I remember when I got sent home with a note explaining to my parents that my pocket knife no longer acceptable.'
mircea_popescu: who the fuckgives a shit, obscure studio making obscure app on that old tablet thing you meanwhile lost.
mircea_popescu: dude... fucking totally.
mircea_popescu: "I think it was great to get the game into the hands of a lot of people for free, even if it lost money for the studio.
ascii_field: guten tag herr vulpes !
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292216 << appears to be down ☝︎
ben_vulpes: guten tag!
mircea_popescu: "With these ca. 100.000 dls we made a whooping $162 in total. In other words form 100.000 people playing or at least downloading the game 127 in App Purchases were tracked by Apple, which means that 0.13% of our user base as paid something inside the App. Don’t get us wrong: We are thankful for those purchases and we hope that you enjoy our game, but to build a sustainable business this won’t get us very far as an
assbot: Pictorial Essay: 18 Things I Did That My Grand-kids Can’t Do Without Someone Getting Arrested « The Burning Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z3PE0A )
ascii_field: whereas the fiat-megamoneybag folks also want 3) without nudging market rate
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 06:05:19; mircea_popescu: anyway, the ever more feverish pitch of desperation is lulzy. "sell bitcoin to me". dude... why the fuck would i be selling anything to you ? fuck you, your approval is not required, your desires don't matter, you're not being persuaded here. you're being raped. nobody gives a shit about your consent, let alone excitement to use bitcoin. you'll use it to survive, and marginally at that.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291977 << everybody, from king to slave, wants to buy 1) an epsilon below 'market rate' 2) without usg logging ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:07:08; PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291888 << is there a working alternative?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292078 << there is, unfortunately, not. yandex is the closest to coming close. ☝︎
ascii_field: but unlike mircea_popescu i sometimes have to vivisect it.
ascii_field wants to visit this one day
mircea_popescu: i live in the dirigible world past the horizon, my shit dun crash.
mircea_popescu: ah yeah, there is that.
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 09:18:42; mircea_popescu: but in general, what sort of information do you obtain by putting words in a box ? suppose you search for "chicken broth" and they explain to you it's a heavy fuel oil. do you believe that ?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292085 << the mega-application for google is 1) error messages 2) lines of published code. ☝︎
ascii_field: ¿Qué tal?
mircea_popescu: or for that matter... now. doh.
btcdrak: (not the title, but the comment I linked to lol)
assbot: luckdragon69 comments on Gavin Andresen: Bitcoin Core Won’t Make the Consensus Rules in the Future ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOx417 )
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/5f07354626cca4a93c9060645f59fa1c/tumblr_nj5l9cxM8e1tm7pnlo1_1280.jpg gamer chicks, ta na na
mircea_popescu: anyway, my takeaway from teh reading is that s.mg should probably at least try and support steam. so if there's someone who actually has experience with this, talk to me.
mircea_popescu: i actually have great hope for the future ofthis system yes.
diana_coman: well you can grab people by their irc nick I suppose, not really by the tie at any moment
mircea_popescu: hey, wait just a minute there!
mircea_popescu: anyway. the original point ofthings likethe mit ai lab, or the xerox parc, or etc, was that people could grab each other by the tie in the hallway
diana_coman: it turns out like that, yes, though he'd be surprised to find that out
diana_coman: just that he has the wrong ideas as to what is reliable source for btc
assbot: 2 results for 'because that's how normal debates work' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=because+that%27s+how+normal+debates+work
mircea_popescu: !s because that's how normal debates work
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that's the other thing. the odds of me giving two pre-compressed, freeze dried rat shits on the "article" of some random derp i dunno... hm.
PeterL: "I read it on the internet, it must be true!"
diana_coman: basically a uni professor who had no idea of the topic but just heard he had to say something on it
diana_coman: had some fun reading them
diana_coman: not to mention some "research"
diana_coman: fwiw I saw first-hand the horrible things google/search-reliance can do for lazy people too - there were some very sad (or laughable if so inclined) articles on Bitcoin in ACM magazine
PeterL: mircea_popescu has alot more pull to abscond interesting people than we do
mircea_popescu does a dozen or more of these "so let me run this by you" citizen arrests things. ☟︎
diana_coman: well yes, but uhm, not really sure they'd come all the way from australia, nz and whatever else, every time
mircea_popescu: the point of convenience, of course, and the humane way to do this, is where you know the people who'd have written articles on that topicanyway, so you put some bagels in the oven, ring them up, invite them over, and talk the matter through over wine.
diana_coman: whether it's that thread or the other one starts with, doesn't make a huge diff
diana_coman: the rest is discovered through connections anyway
diana_coman: so you need just a start on the web
diana_coman: the thing is that's usually just the start of something anyway
diana_coman: well, if the guy was an idiot and did not update his page, what can one do
mircea_popescu: and sadly that article could have saved you a year.
mircea_popescu: and then five years later you discover it hid for no reason one article out of 6
diana_coman: assuming the guy doesn't have his own page updated for some reason
diana_coman: it's still kind of ok for specific stuff, more like bookmarking kind of thing - I know what I'm searching for and roughly where it is, I just need the quick path to it (as in search on dl.acm for articles of X on topic Y or in journal Z)
mircea_popescu: so yes in this sense, google is here to supersede "smart contracts" or vice-versa, whatever. either way really, nonsense's nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the google problem is in any way different from the colored coins/ripple/ethereum problem, or generally "automated trust" issue.
mircea_popescu: but then once people are aware of the scoring, you're lost and it's irredemable.
diana_coman: and when I got there I had been right, the key words were exactly as given etc
mircea_popescu: the original idea was superb, the pr thing. it's a great way to score a graph.
diana_coman: and it did not find them
diana_coman: well, I think it might head that way, in the sense that it happened more than once that I searched for things with precise and specific keywords I knew were in there
PeterL: What would a useful search engine entail, or do you see that as even possible?
diana_coman: IF I have no choice but to start that way, I would afterwards check the source basically
mircea_popescu: diana_coman and would you rely on that ?
diana_coman: then again, I am NOT finding google useful to find information in general
assbot: The Big List Of Indie Game Marketing | PixelProspector - the indie goldmine ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeG1I9 )
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> these results specifically : http://www.pixelprospector.com/the-big-list-of-indie-game-marketing/ <- it's 2nd result returned for me on search: indie game marketing
mircea_popescu: the general population may be happy to pop sugar pills, but that doesn't make them medicine, right ?
PeterL: but the general population is ignorant and does not care to alleviate their ignorance, so google works for them. If they can't find it on google, it doesn't exist
mircea_popescu: and that said, i am probably in the top 1% when it comes to understanding the higher level issues involved, which means i canhammer together a search string like few others. so google would probably be lot more useful to me, were it to be useful at all, than to the general population.
assbot: The Big List Of Indie Game Marketing | PixelProspector - the indie goldmine ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeG1I9 )
mircea_popescu: and right now, im doing (atypically) a foray into discussions of a topic im not particularly familiar with (indie game devel). i read upwards of fifty pages, i did not use google at any point throughout. because, here's the snatch : you try googling something to get you these results.
mircea_popescu: in short, google may perhaps maintain the illusion of utility for as long as the needs are superficial and stay that way.but if you're mostly looking for specific stuff and tend to go beyond the surface of things, it doesn't actually do anything whatever.
mircea_popescu: (and btw, i found it by typing se in myaddress bar which took me to search.bitcoin-assets.com/ rather than typing anything into google. because THIS always works and is way faster)
mircea_popescu: see the thing that started this discussion. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1291886 ☝︎
PeterL: search google, click on what you want is two steps; go to site, search, maybe their search function works the way you expect is at least three steps
mircea_popescu: anwyay, google as bookmark organizer, which is what you're describing, is about as useful as that goes, sure. could just as well use any other
mircea_popescu: tho i have homebrew talent, you know those people who know ALL THE ACTORS and ALL THE SONGS etc ?
mircea_popescu: for this i usually go straight to imdb
PeterL: another example, I am watching a movie and I want to know who the actor is. I google "cast of movie whatever", most likely it links to IMDB, I could have gone straight to IMBD, but it is easier to just start all searches from one place rather than trying to start at each individual site depending on the search
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between these two classes of questions, you know, like in tech support.
mircea_popescu: (i rarely ask "gimme the recipe", because i'm actually sa pretty good cook. usually i ask "is this white sauce or what did you do ?!"
mircea_popescu: not useful is like untrustworthy. doesn't mean "absolutely and in all cases zero use". it just means unreliable enough to be 0.
PeterL: You ask at a restraunt for a recipe of their dish and they give you something?
mircea_popescu: ah, sure. it can. it can also send them to paycoin, just as well.
mircea_popescu: but see, the only reason i could conceivably be interested in is because a woman made them and i liked. then i ask her, such as my mom, or the chick in the cofee shop, or whoever. i don't think i ever wanted to make a random item.
PeterL: think from the other perspective, you say you are the example for things, how do people find your example to copy? Something like google can link them to you
PeterL: another example, I wanted to try to make homemade bagels, I type in the box "bagel recipe", and it gives me several sites with recipes to try. Clearly, these are not all of the same quality, but I only have to look through a couple to find one wotrh trying