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mircea_popescu: i don't recall any tenured professor being canned for not being competent. apparently the only way to get offed is fucking a student or something.
mircea_popescu: "As soon as AGW mutated to Anthropogenic Climate Change the whole show should have been laughed off the stage and all the players terminated (tenured or not)." < now this is the case.
mircea_popescu: "No self-respecting scientist would ever utter a phrase like the science is settled or try to demonize dissenters." << this is kinda lulzy, seeing how i seem to recall 1900s physics being "A settled field"
mircea_popescu: no, it's a lie because stupidity. it is being promoted because money.
mircea_popescu: dub no, they're unrelated. the science is wrong ; there is unscientific interest to make it stick anyway.
mircea_popescu: "You will never go wrong betting against Paul Ehrlich. " ahaha ok.
mircea_popescu: hitler can not be possibly far behind, i've yet to see worhtless shits with delusions of grandeur simply bowing down into the dirt without a fight.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef a generation of kids that grew up being told they're special at home, at school and on tv moves on to be told it's "exceptional" by the politicians.
mircea_popescu: If you dont have a generative account of why your formulas and coupling constants look the way they do (a generative account which itself makes falsifiable predictions), youre not doing science youre doing numerology.
mircea_popescu: pankkake inasmuch as that is emphatically not science.
mircea_popescu: dub your objection just was that some random dork doesnt LOOK like a scientist ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i quoted the paragraph on its own merits, irrespective of author.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, i don't noprmally follow the nonsense.
mircea_popescu: hm. is this some recognised party in the entire dispute ?
mircea_popescu: which is why i even bother pointing out the obvious re "global warming".
mircea_popescu: the thing is this : stupidity should be dispersed. when stupidity concentrates, intelligent people feel the vauge cramp of "we shoulsd maybe try help these idiots ?"
mircea_popescu: i could certainly do with a different set of pretend-scientists reaching "consensus"es
mircea_popescu: and move on to aids epidemic or the nigger violence gene or w/e
mircea_popescu: well by that rationale the best solution to this entire global warming junk science rthing would be getting the media to stfu about it already
mircea_popescu: dub it is. the problem is you're the flat earth "scientist"
mircea_popescu: if the problem isn't solved, and it's genuinely what it was presented to be, why have we moved on ?
mircea_popescu: dub so basically... why are we not working on that then ? i recall the exact rethoric from the exact people twenty years ago about the ozone layer.
mircea_popescu: when the proponents start implying other people are the jesus freaks it's pretty far gone.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty good. any sort of eschatology is outright and for that reason not science.
mircea_popescu: g rather than focusing on the quality of the evidence for theory X."
mircea_popescu: "Rhetoric that mixes science with the tropes of eschatological panic. When the argument for theory X slides from theory X is supported by evidence to a terrible catastrophe looms over us if theory X is true, therefore we cannot risk disbelieving it, you can be pretty sure that X is junk science. Consciously or unconsciously, advocates who say these sorts of things are trying to panic the herd into stampedin
mircea_popescu: dub is your estimation that we have managed to save the ozone layer through concerted effort of industry, regulators and consumers over the 80s and 90s ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake not a bad read. remarkable how we don't hear anything about the ozone layer these days.
mircea_popescu: which of the two is more likely to be influencing energetic balance ?
mircea_popescu: fine. take the other end. radative power from the sun ? 1.38 kW per sqyare meter. human energy consumption ? 0.033 W per square meter (all uses)
mircea_popescu: that objection aside, even accwepting a 150 year term, blind to the fact that people in 1850 had such bad instrumentation most ofg their other measurements in chemistry are significantly off etc, you're still barely up to a second and a half rather than half a second.
mircea_popescu: statistics is often used to lie, especially because correct sampling is so rarely understood by the common people.
mircea_popescu: TomServo im not throwing it out. i am merely observing you can't, from a scientific perspective, put too much weight on it.
mircea_popescu: fucking intellectually lazy slobs, thinking in terms of social proof and soundbytes. "carbon". herp.
mircea_popescu: dude get out. even saying "carbon" is about as illiterate as it gets.
mircea_popescu: not on me to demonstrate some shapeless item is not a fish.
mircea_popescu: dub note that the onus is on you to prove your putative fish is a fish,
mircea_popescu: at issue is the period during which systemtatic measurements were taken, which roughly starts with ww2 and the interest in aviation it spurred.
mircea_popescu: at issue is not the period where any trace whatsoever of some sort of measurement can be found.
mircea_popescu: and i shall be turned into a pillar of salt for doubting the word of "science"
mircea_popescu: we will have hurricanes, floods and obvioujsly, it will rain frogs.
mircea_popescu: at which point it morphed back into the nonspecific "bad things" the religious mind enjoys.
mircea_popescu: pankkake it was global warming up until it became obvious a global cooling is morel ikely on the short (ie, centuries) term
mircea_popescu: fortunately i have access to actual scientists, as opposed to us govt stoogies.
mircea_popescu: you have to be one of the redditards who earnestly believe the world started with roosevelt to actually imagine this can be "science" in some manner.
mircea_popescu: earth is 4.5 bn years old. the average house exists for 45 years. making predictions of future earth temperatures based on 50 years sample is not unlike making prediction of house temperatures based on a number of measurements taken during the span of a half second.
mircea_popescu: you have conspiracy and fraud proven among the proponents, you have clear motive, you know its scientifically unsound, what's left really ? leftism ?
mircea_popescu: it's kind of shocking to me someone can sit there and posture as if "science", on the basis of fifty years worth of geological measurements thart were extrapolated backwards to create a dataset that's then extrapolated forwards in time.
mircea_popescu: that's EXACTLY what's going in. who the fuck asked the coffee gofer.
mircea_popescu: hey, one day you get to work and discover the "entire dub workplace community" has decided dub now has to put condoms on ethernet cables.
mircea_popescu: dub dead serious. global warming is basically a bunch of politicos consipiring to attack legitimate scientists
mircea_popescu: global warming ain't real for the same reason black reparations ain't real.
mircea_popescu: we need bitcoin death squads, for when these types idiots start showing up here.
mircea_popescu: herp. i knew i was gonna run into that. refusal to submit to an attempt to create a larger market for the mafia interest through liberal application of bad science should be disclosed as a liability!!1
mircea_popescu: quite equal with requiring jews to disclose to the camp guards the health risk of living in the camp.
mircea_popescu: companies should asses in advance random arbitrary burden the socialist governments of the world might impose on them, because why not.
mircea_popescu: reading that pdf from earlier... basically environment concern trolling.
mircea_popescu: also that 1973 thing TRIEd to be a trend and a standard at least three times and failed every time.