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ascii_field: which he'd been not only eating, but feeding
to his 'guests'
ascii_field: eventually somebody noticed
that
they never came back.
ascii_field: he ran a kind of 'retreat', exclusive, posh, for high-level police
types
ascii_field recalls a famous case in su where one fella did exactly
that
mircea_popescu: there's more cases of people who ate policemen
than cases of people who starved in
the us.
mircea_popescu: but if you do either, gotta do it with ALL
the elements. you cant mix above avg x with under average y, it'll hurt.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
this system is so beautifully modelled in eulora... you can either overcraft or undercraft
ascii_field: aha, so
they can start
the 40% interest chumpatron going early in life
ascii_field: no plebe gets actual hard cash just for
the asking
ascii_field: usually
the latter is contingent on
the former
mircea_popescu: if you have debts, why
the fuck are you getting a payckech.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with
the concept
that you can't build muscle and lose weight at
the same
time ?
Xplosionist: If you get a paycheque,
that counts as something I guss.
mircea_popescu: the way debts work since
the invention of
the concept is you gotta have something.
ascii_field: yes if you're mircea_popescu and live on sunlight,
this is not about you.
ascii_field: recently, american
tax collectors started going after people for debts of
their long-dead parents
ascii_field: well, when you move
to mozambique it goes away
ascii_field: (mortgage, 'student loan',
tax. most of
the stuff people actually owe $maxint for)
Xplosionist: Really? Like my debt will go away after 6 months if I just become used
to it ?
mircea_popescu: your hunger doesn't go away because "that's enough, i've been hungry for six hours now". on
the fucking contrary.,
BingoBoingo: Like Bitcoin, but without a blockchain
to keep everyone honest.
BingoBoingo: Prolly could have sent money internationally from
there.
BingoBoingo: Still beats
the hell out of Western Union. Liquor store had all sorts of cash services, run by a few cool Persian fellows.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo:
there are shithole shops everywhere
that will cut a cheque
to arbitrary address for 110% in benjies
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:12:07; mircea_popescu: go
to gas station, pay your
taxes ?
mircea_popescu: he's in canada.
their housing doesn't have its own housing
there
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 17:09:05; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but
tax collector doesn't have own branch office
diametric: is he here
to share
tips and
techniques?
ascii_field: analmaster is sitting in
the room with me l0l
ascii_field: Xplosionist: your luck day
then!
there he is.
Xplosionist: was meaning
to ping diametric about stuff
today anyway. been a long
time since we've chatted.
ascii_field: how's life in your corner of
the world, Xplosionist ?
Xplosionist: i was when you _said_ hello. just not when I
tried
to reply.
Xplosionist: heh.
thx. afternoon, diametric. howdy asciilifeform
kakobrekla: i have some vague memory
telling me
this was
the case at some point
kakobrekla: <Xplosionist> Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a
transaction without being in-sync, can you? < not sure if
those are actually being broadcast before it syncs
Xplosionist: thanks much all. And, for better and worse, I'll make sure my client is in sync before
trying
to propose a bet in
the future.
Xplosionist: thx, yeah, i see it in my core client
to. It's in sync atm. :-)
Xplosionist: i have 0.11.0, it's working okay for me on multiple macs. haven't
tried it on other OSes.
shinohai: I don't have a "latest" copy of it. 0.11.0 crashed on me several
times, not
that I needed it anyway.
Xplosionist: shinohai: yeah, but core client is what I had/have, and what I
typically use. Just habit.
shinohai: Don't even need core client
to sign a
tx and push it.
Xplosionist: Oh. Well,
then
to what i said before. I expected it would work.
Xplosionist: Oh, wait, you can't actually _send_ a
transaction without being in-sync, can you?
Xplosionist: But, maybe
the bitcoin core client doesn't work
the way I
thought it did.
Xplosionist: Right. And, I'd expected my client
to send it right away, just not
to know about it's confirmation until it caught up.
Xplosionist: my client says 10/13/15 12:50, and I
think
that's 00:00-4.
kakobrekla: so far bs
txes seem
to propagate just fine.
kakobrekla: i dont
think
the fees matter (yet). 0conf
takes zero conf
txes, meaning it just has
to propagate, not be included in bc
Xplosionist: I don't honestly know. Hours,
to be sure, but less
than a day.
Xplosionist: No, I sent from my bitcoin core client, but it wasn't caught up, and it didn't realize it would
take
that long
to send it out.
mircea_popescu: but in general : pay a reasonable fee,
this "slow
tx"
thing is bad business.
Xplosionist: Right. I attempted
to do
that, but it was delayed
too long.
mircea_popescu: when you propose a bet, you can put some money on it
to get it started
kakobrekla: the 0 stands for 0 and
the conf stands for confirmations
kakobrekla: in short: mods came
to
the proposal before
the 0conf did
Xplosionist: So, happy
to not have
the proposet bet exist now, I want
to find out where my 0.5 BTC is.
Xplosionist: And,
the other comment was about it being somewhat
the opposite side of an existing bet.
Xplosionist: @kakobrekla, oh you mean
the bet was rejected. Right.
That I'd guessed.
Xplosionist: Where do you see
that on
the blockchain.info page, for my education?
Xplosionist: K.
Thanks. I saw a "conflicted" report in my client, but wasn't 100% sure
that meant what I hoped it did.
Xplosionist: Transaction
that attempt
to fund it was 3c0682f82f9cb446adc53d585e0a986bdfac3aa9325c6b4544413ba82057ddaf which appears
to have been successful
Xplosionist: Apologies, making
the best.
The proposal was
the Bernie Sanders 2016.
mircea_popescu: why not "i sent so and so on
this date included in
this block here's
the
txn and etc
Xplosionist: But, AFAICT, I'm still out
the 0.5 BTC I sent.
Xplosionist: I proposed a bet last week, but I
think my funding of
the bet was delayed
too long, and
the bet proposal was eventually rejected.
pete_dushenski: so far : "we answer almost all
tickets in 1 day" and it's been 4...
pete_dushenski: quite so. like my current attempts
to have 'madcatz' cough up checksums/signatures for
their software.
pete_dushenski: ima
talk
to my accountant and see. if he sees no reason
to object, ima self-experiment
pete_dushenski: just flitted
through
the canadian
tax code, nothing in
there about receiver general not accepting cash, nor anything on cra website about 'we don't ACCEPT cash' just 'don't send cash, send cheque'
pete_dushenski: "If your device is more
than five years old, your system may need an upgrade. Over
the next
two years,
the computing industry will eliminate certain security protocols
that are more
than 10 years old.
The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) regularly updates its secure online services
to ensure
they feature
the highest security standard, which is
Transport Layer Security (TLS) 1.2." << hah
mircea_popescu: "everybody knows
that everything exists at
the pleasure of usg hurr durr" sorta
thing.
mircea_popescu: and it matches exactly
the psychological profile of webtards / "dudes
too dumb
to sling dope". "oh,
there's nothing we could have done anyway, best go back
to starbux"\